Hence the fact ZTZ got no added modules, as well as T-90M.
Hence the fact Tor-M1/HQ17 (can’t remember which one) has the same multi targeting mechanic as the Pantsirs, while none of the NATO SPAAs have it.
Hence the fact Gaijin arbitrated Taiwan belongs to China, puting the subtree into the chinese TT, and not to Japan/the U.S. instead (as an independant country, as it is nowadays currently).
Your point being ? I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say
The fact that most chinese domestic MBTs at high tier are mediocre and they needed an Abrams to help them tells you enough how much Gaijin likes them.
Also Top tier China air has been getting shit on by Gaijin for the last 6 months straight, and that trent isn’t changing with a worse PoBIT.
Ah yes, truly the most overpowered tank in the game
Definitely not stuck with shitty armour and second longest reload at top tier.
It’s not the point. The point is : they favorize eastern nations, including China, by not giving them modules, while every other NATO nations get them.
If you want, we can talk about how “shitty” NATO armors are in comparaison, especially Leclercs, Arietes, Challengers, Types, Abrams, Merkavas (to sum up : all of them).
Let’s also talk about how Gaijin considers that the U.S. , the biggest and most wealthy military in the world, decided, according to them, not to improve the SEP V3 hull armor, 46 years after the release of the first Abrams, lol. We can also talk about the fact they gave 12.7 Abrams an anti-ERA DART not capable of pening 12.7 Relikt russian ERAs (very useful). Or maybe the turret added armor on those, absolutely useless as russian MBTs already cannot pen them there.
T-90M isn’t even that good lol
Not the point, even if the russian winrates at top tier GRB proves otherwise.
Oh, what about the leclerc FCS btw?
You’re so dishonest you can’t even admit Leclercs are one of the only NATO MBTs out there having a power system connected to a water pump which, when it breaks, will prevent Leclercs from turning horizontally or vertically the turret, lol. Can’t see that on russian or chinese MBTs. Pure hasard, I guess.
Now you’re evading your original point.
This is hilarious
You’re gonna argue the other points I gave, or you’re just gonna admit you’re weak at arguing ?
They got an Abrams because they got Taiwan in there subtree you genius. It’s the ideology which gave them the opportunity to get an Abrams, not the other way around
the winrates are NOT due to the T-90M
prob because Relikt is newer but whatever.
Still plenty of pen
You’re also ignoring the insane amount of buffs the abrams recieved, turret ring, side armour, shell (which wasn’t needed at all btw), mobility and trophy as well as the many nerfs things like the LMUR have received (loft removed, SAPHE shell turned into HE)
Show me an added module on russian or chinese MBTs actually nerfing them, as much nerfed as NATO MBTs got with the said modules have been added to them ?
You can’t, because it’s made on purpose to sabotage NATO, lol
You do realise those added modules eat spall right?
Which is a buff to survivability
Turret baskets are also made smaller
Funny how you’re evading my valid arguments when they don’t fit your “Russia = better fantasy”, as you did when I was talking about the power system modules added to NATO MBTs (you didn’t argue the point, conveniently), and as you’re doing rn not arguing the added modules present for NATO but not for Russia/China, the paper NATO MBT armors still not improved, the absence of improved hull armor on the Sep V3 and the useless turret armor added to it (making it heavier more than anything else, completely useless to grind btw).
Very, very funny. Everybody understand you’re biased man
They land exactly at the same place man, how is that a proper nerf ?
As long as they don’t hit random cannons/commander mgs/tracks/engine as Spikes/MMPs/PARS/JAGMs already do, I don’t consider them balanced compared to those lol
Only advantage to that new lobe modeling is LMURs can MAYBE hit obstacles in front of NATO MBTs, but that’s it. If it hits the top of the tank each time, it doesn’t change anything at all
Can’t take anyone complaining that the ZTZ series are “overpowered” seriously. I can’t comment on the T-90M since i haven’t unlocked it yet but from what i’ve seen, the tank isn’t that overpowered at all too
Outright ridiculous, get a grip…
I was eating
Be patient you clown
Russia received internal modules first for lights and MBTs (2S38 and autoloader) before NATO did.
Even before the autoloader module was added people were complaining about spall being eaten by fuel tanks (which all nations’ fuel tanks do) and shells.
I am unemployed currently, so no money I’m afraid
The loft angle?
not to mention the warhead being nerfed from SAP-HE to just HE.
omfg you’re dense
It was irony
You shill Russian vehicles as better than they actually are in-game.
With biased statements and made-up facts.
Spall is reduced, means you take less actual damage. All for a what? 8 second repair (literally unplayable)? Just like how the “Magik op bs” Russian autoloader/shells do (except the autoloader takes much longer to repair)
And as I proved to you already with the leclerc, taking out the FCS does not disable your ability to reload, shoot or move the turret at all. It just takes out thermals and stabiliser. (This is for MBTs, lights and SPAA are different for some reason)
You don’t understand anything at all bro
they hti the same spot makes no difference at all… still a one shot kill vs others which require sometimes 4 to kill…
I wonder why there are hundreads of posts claiming what he says but only 4 of you who defend this ? same people alvis motorola you and piatka…
I wonder why turrets in russian tanks don’t fly as often then in some videos from irl lol
does that mean they should add it to a point being very strong with low to no data? where is the balance in it?
winrates are due to the fact of multiple russian vehicles outperfoming others now add the spawm of it and the winrates are explained…
Spikes/MMPs are broken
BMPTs are broken, no need to develop here
Pantsir-S1 currently best SACLOS SPAA in the game (12 ready-to-fire missiles, multi targeting system). Let’s not even talk about the next Pantsir… )
To shoot at russian MBTs, gotta go pixelhunting. Urban debris on the ground ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT does zigzags ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT has bushes all over UFP ? Good luck shooting at driver’s port/breach (especially when you have the blur motion on, and that those bushes will “melt” with the tank’s armor in a blurry weird way). You shoot at russian MBTs from far away ? Good luck, gotta go pixel hunting. NATO MBTs in comparaison ? You point, click and shoot. Simple, easy.
IFVs : russians have IFVs with much higher fire rate, laser accuracy, 2 cannons (1 main for HE/ATGMs, 1 autocannon), much faster than some wheeled NATO IFVs. NATO IFVs in comparaison ? Bushmaster, completely garbage.
People submit bug reports with actual EVIDENCE, time, and effort put into them—and what happens? The people responsible for reviewing them come back with some of the most downright ridiculous responses imaginable. And no, I’m not slandering anyone—I’m calling it exactly how it is.
<— abrams armor etc…
America has gotten 2 SPAA in the past year and a half
France has gotten 1
Italy, Sweden, Israel, and Japan have gotten 2 or less
And Russia?
2 Shilkas
Tor-M2
BUK-M3
And now another Pantsir
At what point does this stop? Why is one nation constantly getting stacked while others are left behind? < — with the new target switch mechanic the new pantsir will be bery good at defeating stealtjh helis while other nations won’t do anything … just waste 8 missiles and ur done
And then there’s the BMPT. What were you even thinking?
Germany is still missing a huge portion of its Boxer vehicles
America still doesn’t have multiple Stryker variants
Other nations are just sitting there waiting
WHERE IS THE DAMN FGM-148 ???
/BTW Show me actual sources for the Su-30SM specifically. Not the MKK, not the MKM, not the MKI, not the SM2—the Su-30SM. I can almost guarantee you can’t, because half the stuff being represented feels like it’s pulled from other variants or straight-up theoretical configurations.
You added the AGM-154 ONLY to the new F-16—WHY??? Every top-tier U.S. aircraft in the game is capable of carrying it.
”Russian mbt’s had autoloaders modelled“
Tanks consist out of more things than just armor.
At 11.7 they are far from broken, especially with incoming accuracy nerf.
What a statement considering NATO had a more armored tank for half a decade now.
