Plus 10 games is such a tiny sample size it’s completely unreliable
I’ll rephrase it actually, as I wrote this in a rush before.
The IRIS T , is better for dealing with fixed wing CAS, when it comes to helis or munitions the new pantsir is just objectively better.
Generally though, it wasn’t needed, at all.
I already stand my ground that the CAS should of been towed back but adding more and more strong as hell SPAA just makes it even more difficult to play-
(what I will say is irritating me quite a lot, is the damn pantsir S1 still chilling at 12.0 xD) has the highest kill count of any SPAA in game still.
BTW read what I said above, VS helis and what not the new pantsir is objectively just better.
Oh I said that about it’s capability of munition interception it’s bonkers good, actually only technique I’ve found that works is the GPS guided bombs on the Netz, use the mavs as a targeting pod (a bad one but still) then come in low, fly up and directly over the pantsir (pray no enemy cas is up) and go to town.
the missile veloticy I’ve not really noticed it usually missies.
Beter using statshark boss.
It’s literally tied neck and neck with the M1 for best 10.7 in the game lol.
it’s not OP cause it doesn’t have the DM33 if it got Dm33 and was at 10.7 it would objectively be over powered.
Best for you doesn’t mean it’s the best.
vickers is larger, worse turret armour, worse reload past the ready rack as well as worse optics last I checked.
You may prefer it which is obviously not an issue.
Lacks armour and survivability though compared to leopard. The L26 is one of the best rounds at the BR as well which is why.
Only thing holding leopard 2 from being 11.0 is the round.
It could be as little as 5 matches - so an even smaller sample…
Wouldn’t surprise me in slightest because I was expecting that kind of number in the first place.
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Delete fr#nce
This is 131 matches I played between May 5th and today at 10.7
45% W/R, which is pretty accurate to the ~40% from April on Statshark for the US at 10.7
Vast majority of these matches were slight uptiers to 11.0/11.3, with maybe 10-20 being full uptiers to 11.7. Due to Russia’s lineup at 11.0/11.3, my team mostly got deleted in those uptiers and it resulted in a loss.
Don’t worry - Gust of Telly will be back in a minute to tells us all how he never loses in US at top tier.
Which would be totally true. You can’t lose games you don’t play!
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That’s my point but, the germans have enough tanks to make strong lineups in every BR bar maybe 10.7 exclusively cause it jumps from 10.7 to 12.3,
but if we include their premiums and lower BRs like the leopard 2K then they have absolutely amazing tanks to use at those BRs.
at higher BRs’ aka 12.3 or up, they ODL a lot, you annot tell me a person with a leopard 2 PSO doesn’t have a 2A5 or even the A6 there which they could definitely spawn and keep fighting.
They do, I’ve also noticed right now with the event I am winning more matches VS russia than I am losing.
Which is using 11.3 merkavas at 12.3 for isreal, the sheer volume of premiums they are spamming and ODLing then losing due to lack of players is ridiculous.
- 1 ofc the gameplay changes completely I was just statign that the ariete is not toothless.
- 2 the SPAA mate I didn’t say anything as I agree, the otomatic while I like it is no where near comparable to what other nations have. never mind russia.
- 3 - 2 ? the BUK I’ve never had trouble with, but what you could say is 2 damn pantsirs and a buk.
Which is mental.
You say you don’t hit anything bar the driver when you shoot the LFP.
The screen shots you showed are
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1 from the side
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2 objectively too low if you’re hitting the track (2nd photo)
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3 NATO auto loaders and such soak spall which should ammo rack them too.
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4 the turret rings for russian tanks we are apparently going to get soon -.-
But be aware, if they add them and their performance drops, they will inevitably move down in BR xd
Nice try Cherrypicking lmao.
Check entire year and it tells a different storry. Also i didn’t claim to win 80%, i said i sure af don’t lose 80%, learn to read.
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Why would he need check the entire year when Russian domination began couple months ago?
If anything you’re the one who’s trying to cherry-pick in here.
Bait used to believable…
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- 1 P51ACE said 130 odd games at 10.7. that is not top tier
- 2 mileage varies depending on who is playing.
- 3 we’ve recently had the BMPT spam completely destroy pretty much every bracket near it.
- 4 I’ve the same win rate just about as P51ACE with Arietes at 11.7, 45% ish is surprisingly good considering 1 the damn CAS, 2 the BMPT Which was a huge factor in deciding games and ofc the pantsirs at top tier.
Nice stats on the merkavas BTW, is that a mk3 or 4 ? cause I’m about 200K into the 4 and wanna see how ti goes.
It’s the MK4M, one of my favourite tanks, it’s very good.
But all of the 4’s are nice.
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Why when people disagree does it need to be “bait” are we all on the defensive so much that it has to be constantly related to aggression or trolling etc.
Dudes got a different opinion as his exprience is different.
Doesn’t mean he’s baiting lol.
I’ve won more games in Isreal at 12.3 (using 11.3 merkavas) recently than I have with my other lineups.
Russia still right now as you say has had massive, massive boons so it really doesn’t matter peoples slightly different winrates.
The point he’s making is NATO teams aren’t losing 80 percent of their games.
Nice man, looking forward to it, I quite like the Mk3s even upteiring them is pretty good
I personally consider anything 10.7+ to be top tier as you get vehicles that pretty much play the same from then on out regardless of different variants. Strictly speaking top tier would be the highest BR bracket but I factor in 10.7 for what I said above and the fact that I don’t really play above it anymore.
Amidst this discussion about the current state of Russian domination at the top brackets - he claimed to not lose 80% of games while playing NATO - like that is some sort of argument when backed up by as little as FIVE games out of 90+. It is also demonstrably false.
If he gets the hump because he’s shown to be lying though his back teeth - that’s not a issue that will keep me awake at night.
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They will always find an excuse.
Yes Russia is very strong, nobody is denying that. But saying losing 8 of 10 games as Nato is just delusional if you don’t constantly one death leave.
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NATO teams swims around 40 percentish wr buddy, shows how situation is bad is.
Whether 80 percent is exaggerated or not point still stands.
NATO looses way more of than Russia.
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Because i was literally grinding SL for the gamble chest and chose to play my 9.0 China setup this last month ?
Also people were crying Russia is dominating since LMUR (Sept. 2025) and before. So chosing this year alone should be more than fair for that matter. You can also go further back…