Guess which light vehicle also shares same cannon that BMPT has while having even better missiles and round?
Thats right its the BMP2M.
There is a reason why both vehicles has different br placement.
Uhhhh, idk
Who’s that Pokemonnnnn?
Men russia need t90m2, asap or t14 armata… need a fair buff /s
“Trash fm”
Literally what???
All of the Russian planes are faster and have better sustained turn rates at combat speeds. Not to mention better missiles that don’t give a rip about miltipathing at all. Plus hms allowing you to hold a notch/multipath without moving the nose to get a radar lock. You are lying to yourself if you think russias planes were in anyway disadvantaged especially in nuclear thunder. The scoreboard stats for every game say completely otherwise and so do the win rate stats. Russia was dominating almost every nuclear thunder game.
At the upper bracket sure the Mig-29 was dominating, but at the lower bracket it entirely came down to player skill. The majority of players on the US side were absolutely idiotic and were players who had never touched jets at all, let alone any of the mechanics at that BR. I was doing extremely well in an A-10C simply because I knew what I was doing.
“Mig-29s with trash FM”
It’s objectively the worst 4th gen airframe by a considerable margin.
F-15 and F-16 clown on the Mig-29 in every flight performance metric apart from maybe top speed or acceleration.
They weren’t. The top bracket was fairly equal performance wise, but the fact that the US is a more popular tree, has 3 times as many usable aircraft, and much more popular usable aircraft led to the one sided queues. In the lower bracket Mig-23s and Su-24s were good, but the Phantom wasn’t that bad, and the F-4J/S was by far the best aircraft for it.
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I only played the lower bracket, but I noticed most of the dogfighting occurred right behind the frontline on the Russian side, which brought the SPAA systems into play more often. I could see where the domination effect could come into play when it’s not being fought in a neutral area of the map.
If you think that makes them somehow the same, okay.
I wouldn’t even call it a fair comparison between the two considering one tank despite having better missiles and the APFSDS round, is worse due to it having no armor whatsoever because its a light tank meaning everything can kill.
While the other only has APDS and worse missiles but I consider better because of the amount of armor the BMPTs have, the two 30mm it gets (Im aware that only one can fire at a time but still), and a crew less turret which the BMP-2M doesn’t have.
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Also the BMPT’s ATGMs don’t cause an ammo detonation like they do on the BMP
This is especially true if you study where you get shot.
I once did a study playing T-80BVM, and all tech tree players except American players would correctly hit side armor and turret.
Abrams players for whatever reason would shoot UFP when the turret and side armor were easier shots.
Of course, 40 matches isn’t the biggest sample size, but it’s astonishing how many people deliberately aim for the thickest armor then complain their shots don’t pen.
“I shot the turret cheek of Abrams and it didn’t pen! It’s OP!” level argument.
Edit:
“OMG! Abrams OP! ARAT 2 is overperforming!” - Argument using the rationale of some posts made.
True and the ammo belt leading into the 30mm guns also having the model separated from the outside belt to the inside belt making ammo detonation hard for that too
In your study did American players tend to confront you head on rather than from a flank?
I was studying close engagements that force myself and them to show side armor to go around corners.
Close ranges also make it easier to hit [and obviously pen] the T-80BVM turret without hitting ERA.
Leopard 2 players consistently shot side armor and turrets [and of course penning, with most penned shots being a one shot frag], with none hitting the UFP.
Abrams players consistently chose to shoot the UFP instead of side armor or turret.
This was in 2024 & 2025, so things might’ve changed.
To be honest I believe that boils down to player knowledge and how players react. US players tend to shoot the first large part of the tank they see, which is typically the UFP. A problem arises when in lower BRs that behavior is encouraged because several American tanks can go through the UFPs of certain vehicles. A lot of Abrams players are typically very aggressive (which is likely akin to a FPS playstyle, where you aim for center mass) and them not understanding what they can/can’t pen.
A BVM side ERAs ate my whole DART, I quit and went on Reforger lmao
Can’t waste time on an unbalanced game anymore. Friendly advice : fix the unbalanced situation at +10.3 GRB Gaijin, or the player basse = the $ received will plummet at some point
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sorry bro, the whales will keep on coming as long as there’s something to buy
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Buddy, you can see the nuke icon. Right there.
Not to mention he was at 2400sp in the first match.
In both of these games the nuke was only denied because he didn’t have time. Top tier games end incredibly quickly, often in 5 minutes. Getting a nuke is already difficult and dropping it requires time that you don’t always have. Not to mention the chances of you getting shot down are incredibly high due to SAMs and top tier aircraft.
In this entire video, there’s ONE section where he struggles to kill Russian MBTs.
One, the first incidence clearly being volumetric bs that is not exclusive to Russia. Every tank has this. It was simply a bad shot.
The second incidence was also a bad shot, third one was bad luck, happens against every tank.
In the first match he’s also clearly on the fence about what the new modules do for the Leclerc, on one hand you lose the ability to turn your turret etc, but the new modules also eat up spall.
His main complaints in this entire video were: short matches and CAS.
He never complained about Russian mbts and I never saw him struggle against a BMPT.
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Bradleys cant fire on the move. Spikes can and they do ingame, the problem is that row 2b does no damage and spikes dont work, lock is broken, damage is crap, flight profile is worse.