well yeah i will agree to that, relocking ability is goated, i was meant to 7f and 7m tho
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it is definitely not 14.3 worthy, i have not grinded it yet tho, should be 14.0
idk it works fine for me
my r27r misses in 10+km shots and sub 3km shots (in slight HOBS conditions) as it does not have enough energy to pull, but between that it has a sweetspot
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guess I’ll find out man xd
Lucky you mate, they’ve just always been useless for me to use.
I’ve used it in most varying shots, and found it always either misses , gets notched off or ofc terrain masked which doesn’t matter if it’s an R27 or a damn amraam if it gets terrain.
It’s easily one of the worst top tier jets.
- F-16C dogfight flight performance is decent at 13.7, but gets rolled by a lot of the 14.3-14.7 planes.
- Mid/mediocre BVR flight performance.
- Only 6 missiles, most of which are AIM-120s which absolutely don’t support the PoBIT’s ideal playstyle. And only 6 means you will lose most BVR fights due to the iron dome meta.
- Worst AESA at top tier since it only has 120° horizontal scan, compared to the 140° on every other normy AESAs and the 180-240° on the god tier AESA radars.
These are only some of the major points. All in all it’s just mid-mediocre.
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f15ge looks straight up a better option
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I would even argue that in the current iron dome meta the F/A-18E is a straight up better option as well.
And I have been trashtalking the Super Hornet a lot in the past.
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its seems kinda slow but i havent grinded it yet so cant say anything
oh it’s definitely slow. However it has 12x AIM-120, so it can participate in the iron dome meta very well.
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well so does f15ge
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O yeah I agree, I meant it in a way to say F-15C GE > F/A-18E > PoBIT
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Thank you for the rundown on it mate 👍
Ill keep the previous comment up so folks can follow the chain of conversation relared to tbe pobit.
Oh damn lol that’s not what i was expecting you to say man 😂😂 poor pobit.
Though i do like a challange so ill likely get it.
Have you tried the new mig29M?
Please show me the mass complaints of the M247? Like most SPAA’s at the BR at the time, it was basically just defense against people spamming unguided rockets right at your face and wasn’t pulling BS, if I recall it took them awhile to even get the Airburst to work. The biggest complaints people had at the time was that. Even with the M247 everyone realized it wasn’t enough as heli’s could still sit out of range.
The very next Update, The Tunguska came out, and to this day it’s still an extremely strong SPAAG meanwhile the ADATs was nerfed over and over again.
I literally said it might belong to the PoBIT, I don’t know if you’re reading what I type fully or you’re skimming over too quickly.
It’s actually not a bad plane on paper. Especially after the PL-12 addition. It’s just the lack of counter measures where you need to put all of it into chaff.
But again. What is it a basically worse version of?
Su-30SM.
Did you read what the guy said? Read the rest of what he had to say. He was disagreeing with you
I don’t think you’re actually reading what people say but skimming so quickly that you’re completely misinterpreting people at this point.
Generally speaking. Russia either dominated, or if the U.S. is ahead. Russia just lags behind slightly but they weren’t substantially worse than their competition and it flipped between those two metrics. It’s only changed now for top-tier due to the Rafale and Typhoon.
And again. Looking past how the vehicles perform. It makes people raise a brow when Gaijin loves dragging their feet on fixing overperforming Russian vehicles YEARS after the fact meanwhile the second something in the U.S. over performs. They do the slap down on it and fix it within a week. F-15E is a great example.
Because they have access to a literal fantasy missile.
And everyone at the time thought that was a massive nerf to NATO darts. It became exponentially harder to pen Russian tanks at that point and even now, using the M774 round against a T-80B or T-64BV penetrating the turret is literal pixel sniping.
I remember specific tests at the time showing that in missile jousts that while the Sparrow had a longer burning motor, the R-27 would accelerate faster and hit the target first. This made the missile much better for most purposes in the game. The only time the Sparrow really had the edge was if the target was running away, the sparrow’s burn time had much more reach.
Video illustrates my point, but you’ll need to go on youtube to watch.
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It’s also just a straight up worse plane than the F-15C GE.
Go ahead and play it, it’ll make you wish you were in the F-15C GE.
(Not that that will ever happen since you are a US main, nation mains love talking about what vehicles from other nations are good and better than their stuff)
Oh it was a nerf, sure.
However it was hardly a meaningful one since the M1 and Leo 2A4 have still been stomping on the T-64B and T-80B ever since.
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the m774 BTW can still easily pen a T80B or T64BV, Believe me it only struggles with other NATO MBTs and the absolute frontal arc of a T80B / T72B etc.
while a new round would be nice the tanks BR would increase exponentially.
What do you mean easily? M774 can only pen those tanks through their weakspots which is anything but easy job.
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surely Su-27SM was on par/lagged “just slightly” behind F-15E or the Rafale or eurofighter
I would say it’s more of a sidegrade.
J-15T has good TTW, but low CM count.
Su-30SM has low TTW, but good CM count.
I don’t think it’s a hot take to say the J-15T could comfortably sit at 14.3 instead of 14.7 (maybe they can move it up when they add in ECM.).
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it really is easy to do man, you can pen through a lot of the turret with the M774 bar the absolute front of it.
As well as the UFP of the T80’s. the addition of the M883 round would put the M1 up at 11.0
You mean the weakspots on turret? Because aside from those point turret itself can stop M774.
I don’t remember M774 can penetrate T-80B’s hull armor relatively easy, unless you’re aiming to specific points.
It’s absolutely laughable that the F-15C GE and Su-30SM/MKM get to sit at 14.3 while the J-15T is 14.7.
I don’t think it’s bias towards or against anything though, I think parts of the balance team are just that disconnected from their own game.
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