Its the combination of overwhelming BMPT swarm with MBT’s alongside with most broken SPAA and cas platforms.
Russian T-Series are not as good as NATO tanks when you consider them solely but if you take line-up into account whole situation turns upside down.
Eh.
I’d say Aim-7P’s are better than base R27R but they are exclusive for premium hornets only at that br range.
Last I checked the standard 27R was worse in most ways ?
worse retention, worse range, slower etc think it’s got the advantage in AoA / pull but that is it.
Iırc it accelerates better and has similiar range if its fired at high altitude.
Selling point of R27R are IOG and AoA capabilities tho.
seeker is gazillion times better than 7m
but r27r kinematics are dogshit, even worse than r24r
given its lackluster energy it cant pull initially as much as r27er
true but let’s not forget when it was kept at a lower BR as well as the IRIAF which allowed for them to absolutely farm lobbies, VS planes which didn’t even have RWRs.
arguably now M833 isn’t really a dire need now either, don’t get me wrong I’d like to have a round which has more than 215 angle pen and 400 flat pen but it would also likely see abrams move up as good players with it would do extremely well.
Same as if Leo2a4 got the DM33 it would likely see 11.0
the pobits really that bad or what ? I’ve been working towards it when I play top tier air and it seems as far as I can see pretty decent, not good but certainly competitive for what it is.
R27R IOG has never worked for me sadly, always just floated of into the distance and popped.
I absolutely dispise the standard R I genuinely don’t think I’ve had more than 2 kills with them between all the planes I’ve used them on.
I’ve always found the 27R to miss TBH, as I said above I’ve had about 2 kills with them using them.
I got to the point i actually stopped using them on the mig29 when I got it and used 6 R60s until I got the 27ERs.
well yeah i will agree to that, relocking ability is goated, i was meant to 7f and 7m tho
it is definitely not 14.3 worthy, i have not grinded it yet tho, should be 14.0
idk it works fine for me
my r27r misses in 10+km shots and sub 3km shots (in slight HOBS conditions) as it does not have enough energy to pull, but between that it has a sweetspot
guess I’ll find out man xd
Lucky you mate, they’ve just always been useless for me to use.
I’ve used it in most varying shots, and found it always either misses , gets notched off or ofc terrain masked which doesn’t matter if it’s an R27 or a damn amraam if it gets terrain.
It’s easily one of the worst top tier jets.
These are only some of the major points. All in all it’s just mid-mediocre.
f15ge looks straight up a better option
I would even argue that in the current iron dome meta the F/A-18E is a straight up better option as well.
And I have been trashtalking the Super Hornet a lot in the past.
its seems kinda slow but i havent grinded it yet so cant say anything
oh it’s definitely slow. However it has 12x AIM-120, so it can participate in the iron dome meta very well.
well so does f15ge
O yeah I agree, I meant it in a way to say F-15C GE > F/A-18E > PoBIT
Thank you for the rundown on it mate 👍
Ill keep the previous comment up so folks can follow the chain of conversation relared to tbe pobit.
Oh damn lol that’s not what i was expecting you to say man 😂😂 poor pobit.
Though i do like a challange so ill likely get it.
Have you tried the new mig29M?
Please show me the mass complaints of the M247? Like most SPAA’s at the BR at the time, it was basically just defense against people spamming unguided rockets right at your face and wasn’t pulling BS, if I recall it took them awhile to even get the Airburst to work. The biggest complaints people had at the time was that. Even with the M247 everyone realized it wasn’t enough as heli’s could still sit out of range.
The very next Update, The Tunguska came out, and to this day it’s still an extremely strong SPAAG meanwhile the ADATs was nerfed over and over again.
I literally said it might belong to the PoBIT, I don’t know if you’re reading what I type fully or you’re skimming over too quickly.
It’s actually not a bad plane on paper. Especially after the PL-12 addition. It’s just the lack of counter measures where you need to put all of it into chaff.
But again. What is it a basically worse version of?
Su-30SM.
Did you read what the guy said? Read the rest of what he had to say. He was disagreeing with you
I don’t think you’re actually reading what people say but skimming so quickly that you’re completely misinterpreting people at this point.
Generally speaking. Russia either dominated, or if the U.S. is ahead. Russia just lags behind slightly but they weren’t substantially worse than their competition and it flipped between those two metrics. It’s only changed now for top-tier due to the Rafale and Typhoon.
And again. Looking past how the vehicles perform. It makes people raise a brow when Gaijin loves dragging their feet on fixing overperforming Russian vehicles YEARS after the fact meanwhile the second something in the U.S. over performs. They do the slap down on it and fix it within a week. F-15E is a great example.
Because they have access to a literal fantasy missile.
And everyone at the time thought that was a massive nerf to NATO darts. It became exponentially harder to pen Russian tanks at that point and even now, using the M774 round against a T-80B or T-64BV penetrating the turret is literal pixel sniping.
I remember specific tests at the time showing that in missile jousts that while the Sparrow had a longer burning motor, the R-27 would accelerate faster and hit the target first. This made the missile much better for most purposes in the game. The only time the Sparrow really had the edge was if the target was running away, the sparrow’s burn time had much more reach.
Video illustrates my point, but you’ll need to go on youtube to watch.
It’s also just a straight up worse plane than the F-15C GE.
Go ahead and play it, it’ll make you wish you were in the F-15C GE.
(Not that that will ever happen since you are a US main, nation mains love talking about what vehicles from other nations are good and better than their stuff)
Oh it was a nerf, sure.
However it was hardly a meaningful one since the M1 and Leo 2A4 have still been stomping on the T-64B and T-80B ever since.
the m774 BTW can still easily pen a T80B or T64BV, Believe me it only struggles with other NATO MBTs and the absolute frontal arc of a T80B / T72B etc.
while a new round would be nice the tanks BR would increase exponentially.