yes but R27R and T (not even ER and ET) are much better than sparrows, and the ADF flight model was much worse than the F16A that didnt even have sparrows
you are obviously trolling here
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Nerfed?
M829A1, M829A2, 5 second reload.
Abrams has pretty much only been buffed since introduction.
The module system people voted for is an indirect nerf, because it requires you getting penned with both a module and your engine being destroyed at the same time; and 6 things had to go wrong for that to occur.
And you can blame Gaijin for listening to the community all you want. Either way, I and others warned you this would be the result. I voted no on modules, but now that they’re here all we can do is push for them to refine their implementation.
Soviet tanks are not more survivable than NATO tanks.
Survivability is what happens after penetration, and ammo explosions are not more survivable than a damaged module.
F-15C GE is one of the best aircraft.
If you think F-15C can’t reach speeds, then you must think Su-30 is a slug…
Last game I played :
Launched 1 ebrc jaguar spike to bmpt => direct hit to the UFP => ERAs ate the whole spike.
What’s the point of having “tandem charge atgms” if they don’t actually act like tandem charge atgms ?
Fix your game Gaijin, fix your game. You’re gonna end up with russian players only.
“We have a new gamemode guys, we have a new gamemode”. Yeah but what about the spikes not going where they’re supposed to, the ERAs eating atgms, the ERAs and russian side armors eating darts, russian autoloaders eating darts, that protective sphere for the mi28nm, bmpt modeling, the list of aerial targets refreshing every god damn time in the 12.7 SPAAs menu so we CANNOT select another target because it “instantly refreshes” the menu and redirects you to the first line everytime, russian trunions bouncing your shots like it wasn’t anything, and so much more
Fix your game
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Every tank in the game got better and better ammunition as time went on. I don’t get your point.
Because the module system would’ve made sense if Gaijin did it correctly. But they are either so incompetent that they literally think an ammo box is what controls the entire turret drive or Gaijin hoped to use this as permission to get justification of artificially nerfing NATO tanks and the russian FCS systems are absorbing the spall of a 120mm dart.
And to my knowledge, even the blow out racks now have been artificially nerfed in function.
And an Abrams getting easily obliterated through a single shot into the mantlet is “Survivable” meanwhile the mantlet and FCS of the T-80 just eats the spall.
R-77s have much stronger AoA capacity and the Su-30SM2 basically lets you engage in almost a notch, vs the F-15C GE’s 70 degrees
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The ebr deserved if though for looking like an absolutely fugly pug
Hate this vehicle, hope the spikes never works
It’s garbage.
It has spall liners everywhere, but I don’t understand why as it doesn’t stop anything.
Spikes don’t work.
It’s just a 5.0 light vehicle brought up at 11.0 br. It’s like that with every nato spike ifvs.
This game is ridiculous, and unbalanced. Everything is given to Russia since 2022 and the war.
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It works, you roll a dice every time you hit something and its tandem so it will go straight through eras. You have 50% chance to one-shot everything you hit, facing them is annoying especially if you are on t-series with -0.00000000001 kph reverse speed, hits that don’t kill you will diables your fcs. thats why i crewed the one with aps, so tired of braindead fnf craps that just hit the button and let the computer to the rest, like why don’t you just write a script and let the AI do everything for you lol
Not only that they are annoying, they are also ugly as f, the british crv block also looks like a crossbreeding that goes wrong with recessive genetic defect.
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and its tandem so it will go straight through eras
Man don’t make me show you the clip explaining that :
Last game I played :
Launched 1 ebrc jaguar spike to bmpt => direct hit to the UFP => ERAs ate the whole spike.
What’s the point of having “tandem charge atgms” if they don’t actually act like tandem charge atgms ?
It’s actually my last game played, it won’t be hard for me to find the clip back.
Spikes don’t act like tandem charges, they just don’t. Relikt seem to eat them, and there is no reason for that.
You have 50% chance to one-shot everything you hit
You mean 15% ?
why i crewed the one with aps, so tired of braindead fnf craps that just hit the button and let the computer to the rest, like why don’t you just write a script and let the AI do everything for you lol
LMURs bois do that every single top tier game. It’s not a problem apparently.
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I will also show you clips of me getting ohko and I have enough of them to show and we will cancel each other out bro
But you understand spikes are thus not acting like tandem charges (while they’re supposed to be tandem charges) ?
Yes and no
49% chance of one shot one kill on a standing still, test range T-64A
Certainly not against BMPT
Considering how spikes, or, in this case, Jaguar’s MMP, tend to affect the Br of the vehicle carrying them, one could expect them to work reliably, especially when taking the low ammo count into account.
These should badly cripple / kill every time. If you got caught in the open by an unexpected missile that’s on you.
If you are hull down and aware of the threat, and you still die, that’s also on you for not smoking in time
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They behaves just like any tandem atgms, not even the ones from the likes of aft09/bmp2m guarantee kill in a direct hit. I have had Namer literally ate 8 hj-9 from aft09 and the damage did not went beyond damaging the crew, other times Merkavas also ate a bunch of tandem and only manage to kill one crew. That’s the nature of ATGMs damage type against composite, and they also tend to sway so you have little to not control on where they would hit.
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Laser controlled atgms do more damage than spikes, it is not debattable.
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Premiums don’t really perform worse than their TT copies. This is being proven month after month.
You do realize Merkava’s base armor was designed to stop even the most powerful ATGM’s and withstand against kinetic projectiles while Russian tanks heavily relies on ERA to defeat incoming threats right?
The whole point of tandem charge is to bypass ERA coverage and penetrate base armor with its force, Russian T-Series doesnt have enough base armor to stop modern Tandem ATGM’s.
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Same can be said for MiG-21MF/SMT vs F4C.
Do I need to remind you that F4C was stuck with garbage flight model paired with Aim-9E’s while both MiG-21 enjoyed those R-60’s that could even be launched on front aspect at certain angles?
Not to mention upon its release MiG-21BIS was heavily overperforming in flight performance, it was outrating and out accelerating F4E under any altitude and circumstances while in real life it couldn’t.
The reason they added R27ER it’s because they modelled R-73’s so broken on dev server they had to remove it and compensated by giving trash ir missiles paired with best Fox-1 missiles.
And who’s dominating the ground rb now?
Starting from 10.0 Russia has the best wr overall while other nations sits between 40-48 percent at best.
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Over time yes but sales and new premiums do tank performances shortly.
Also in this case they arent even copies so if youre right then Alvis is just double wrong.
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Maybe R-27R was better than AIM-7M, but R-60M was absolutely not better than AIM-9L.
Fair enough, I was mostly thinking about ground.
Although the US was far from the only nation to be in that position for top tier air. Even now Israel and China are in considerably worse positions at top tier air.
The F-14A dominated for about 8 months before it was surpassed by stuff like the F-16A and MiG-29.
It’s still easily the best 10.7 now after all those nerfs, now imagine how strong it was back then without half the current tanks in the BR range.
M833 wasn’t need back then since Gaijin hadn’t switched to their calculation for penetration, so M774 had more pen back then.
And you mostly or even exclusively play US.
It’s quoted as such mostly by US mains lmao, which should tell you how true it is.
The F-15C GE is fine, borderline 14.7 now. If you want bad top tier AESA jets, try the PoBIT and J-15T (the former of which is actually 14.7).
That was exactly the point I was trying to make. This guy made it out like Russia was dominating most of the history of the game, but in reality it was just flip-flopping between Russia and the US. With some minor nation dominance sprinkled in here and there.
Russia, but only because of their CAS/AA.
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Thats how Merkavas (same as namers) work. In reality HEATs shouldn’t pen them frontally. Hull front has about ~1400 RHA. Turret about ~1900 RHA.
Additional you have the motor block which eat all HEAT ammo which pens. Therefore the Namer should also have about 1400 RHA frontally. If its tandem or not doesn’t matter because it dont have ERA.
HJ-9 has about 1200 Pen according to WT stat card.
HJ-9 also has a max speed of about 300 m/s which makes it vunerable to APS if you faced the Namer Tsrikhon.
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