Russian Bias in 2026?

Machinery of War Discussion
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I literally pointed out the M1 Abrams was dominating ground RB and Gaijin did everything to nerf it down to what we have now. You just read right over that.

So Russia gets a better missile to offset (Best SARH in the entire game) and the F-16A while being better, was not kicking in teeth every match. The Mig-29 comes out and still has areas it’s superior in to the F-16A but the kit on the F-16A was generally better and the rate speeds were large enough to make a difference. But they didn’t take a metric dump on the Mig-29 making it literally impossible to play

It was “better” but it wasn’t leaps and bounds over the SMT. The R-60s carried it, was more maneuverable than the 9Js and everyone practically skimmed the ground so the use of AIM-7Es weren’t that viable unless someone climbed up high. And the AIM-7E-2’s weren’t there for the full lifespan of the F-4E so they were worthless unless you were going head-on with a dude miles away at high alt.

When the The Mig-23 came out. With the F-4E you literally couldn’t do anything. When the Bis came out. You couldn’t fight back because prolonged fights weren’t feasible and they even rated better than the F-4E due to having double it’s IRL acceleration. The same was with the SMT except it didn’t have the inaccurate acceleration to let it pull complete BS moves.

The closest one you could say was dominant was the F-15E. But I want to add. And this is the funny part. It was overperforming in Engine thrust and Gaijin literally fixed it in like a week or two and it balanced out a whole lot better afterwards. Compare this to the Russian vehicles I listed above.

I fully disagree the F-15C was “Dominant” Maybe slightly better. But dominant is “Clubs the enemy completely.”

Again, plays out like how I said at the end of my initial post “Anytime the U.S. is ahead, Russia only slightly lags behind, anytime Russia is ahead. The U.S. gets clubbed to death.”

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Except that the M1 was still dominant even after the so called “nerfs” (which were more bandaid solutions to stem the bleeding).

And the absolute funniest part. When Russia finally got the T-80B, their first tank to at least somewhat come close to the M1 Abrams, the US received an improved abrams (IPM1), the best AA in game at the time (M247) and the best heli at the time (AH-1Z) in the same update.

The US hasn’t been clubbed to death in a while now though.

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on release the MIG 29 was much better than the F16A

it had a better missile kit a much better flight model
and then they gave it R27ER to top it off

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you mean beside air? you know where US hasnt had a competitive top tier since the EFT and Rafale were added

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sorry but you glossed over the F4E , F5s as well as the fact the F14A dominated for years Mig23 stood literally no chance, not in a dogfight, not in long range capabilities.
It’s only advantage was 4 x all aspect missiles which sucked anyways.

You also completely left out the Mig29 never got it’s historical R73s at release due to USA crying.
It Got it’s air frame nerfed whcih was only fixed a few months ago after years.

It also had to be given R27ER as it was no where near keeping up with the 16A, which got the 9G limiter removed extremely quickly.

F15A was also fantastic when it was added, not as top notch as the gripen but still absolutely hammered most opposing jets into the ground.
F15C though was a winner again back on top then followed by teh F15E which for a while was able to fly into orbit, drop off 8 AMRAAMS then bugger off back to base completely untouchable, if you extended up to catch it, you’d cop an amraam, if you stayed low, you could rarely ever fire a missile up at it and land a hit.

so what we have now? the M1 is still one of the best 10.7 MBTs in game, only supersceded by the Leopard 2A4

They literally did take a dump on the mig29? it’s air frame was butchered up until like 4 months ago even then it’s still missing some of it’s flight characteristics.

The F16A absolutely mogged it and still does.

Not gonna lie mate, when F4E was added I didn’t see many folks ground skimming F14A caused that meta

Disagree all you want it was the top scoring plane for a while.

sorry but AIM9Ls were far better than R60s. Now they’re all massively attracted to flares for some reason.

It’s competitive mate? it’s just not the top dog now.
The new F16 BTW and F15C GE are both competitive in the top tier meta.

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Prior to the 2024? Mig-23 nerfs, MLD dogfought about as well as F-14A.
F-14A also had nuclear engines which made R-60s, R530E, etc rather potent in the rear aspect.

F-14 players were so use to people just zombing, that when they faced an opponent that exploited their aircraft’s weaknesses they just fell apart.

F-14A was strong tho. Best of the top aircraft, but still defeatable.

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No, no it did not.

The F14A had a better FM, better sustained fight, better nose authority as well as better flight performance.

The MLD had one thing going for it back them which was the wing slats.

The funny thing was back then the F14 radar was actually a ballache to get to work properly as well as it constantly lost lock when moving the nose around.

The f14A was by far the doninant plane for a long time.

So it was the dominant air craft? Every plane is beatable.
I’ve beaten gripens in the mig29 doesn’t makw it better.

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It could be vastly improved in basically all respects, but wont be don’t forget that the event variant need to be specifically conferred AIM-9L in order to keep up. Also It has and had significant issues with being beaten in a Dogfight since the Mig-21Bis (2 stage emergency settings) at the time could reliably initially dump energy it had into a turn and be impossible to recover from.

And so relied on the F-5’s to handle the dogfight and keep them at range.

They are performing to Russian Specs, complain to them about it. Considering they are trusted more than the actual FMs when reported.

R-23 & -24T were silent and could be cued by the IRST at a significant distance, and the F-14s are far hotter than they should be since Temps are set according to cockpit instruments regardless of where the probe is located (inlet vs outlet probes, is also why the F-5 is so cold).

It’s still far better than Rear-Aspect only missiles, and being constrained to how Sparrows were modeled prior to the -7M being introduced.

Do I need to bring up how they were modeled at the time?

Because it was poorly modeled, and would cause issues with the limitations of the game, since it’s not a simple G or AoA limitation, but both dynamically depending on a number of factors for each channel.

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Nevermind, the MLD was buffed since its initial versions.
This is with both having 2.5 minutes of afterburning fuel:

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And this is with giving F-14A less fuel endurance [30%]:
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Totaly bro, you are so right.

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Temps are based off of thrust last i checked.

Well aware it was.
Hence my original statements.

Now the F14A sits above it by a full BR as.well to further show the stark difference in performance metrics.

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And then nerfed again and again and again and now we have the turret drive issue expanded to all NATO tanks.

It was a slower version that only uparmored the cheeks and so people still preferred playing the regular Abrams and treated the IPM1 as a reserve tank.

This was before the implementation of M833 and this was the beginning of Gaijin making changes to the russian carousel racks where it would begin to absorb shots.

It didn’t help that the matchmaker at the time favored Stalingrad a boat load so you’d have to go hulldown against T-80s and T-64BVs and you’re were playing breach breaking simulator.

The M247? By what margin? Was it an all destroying nightmare or was it just marginal improvement over something like the Shilka? Because it lines up with what I remember it as. A pretty effective gun based system but it didn’t break top-tier, especially as people were dying for a new SPAA as the M163 wasn’t cutting it anymore in the era guided missile slingers.

There was no “Best Heli.” besides thin margins in what players preferred in fact, it was almost up to player taste. Do you prefer higher mobility or do you prefer a tankier platform that carries more varied ordnance.

Both did fine as missile slingers.

Over the years gaijin just kept nerfing the Abrams (And subsequently every NATO tank in the process) to the point that Russian tanks are surpassing NATO vehicles in survivability.

F-15C GE is repeatedly quoted as one of the worst if not THE worst AESA equipped top-tier (This may belong to the PoBit but I’ll need to do flight tests). (intially) Didn’t carry the amount of armament needed, and can’t actually reach speeds that are kinematically required to perform well as well as a subpar missile compared to it’s competitors. The Airframe is also severely underperforming and Gaijin admits it’s an issue but won’t fix it. Again. Strange that anytime the U.S. needs fixing, Gaijin loves inaction. Another issue is that the AIM-120s are massive question marks in performance but instead of making guestimations on perceived performance as they happily done before (Especially as footage shows the fins of the AIM-120C rotating over 30 degrees of deflection) Gaijin drags their feet on the issue and requires hyper specific documentation or sources that explicitly state it. But as we’ve seen with the Abrams, even when shown direct incontrovertible evidence. Will turn their eyes away.

Meanwhile, they added a Russian mockup missile that we don’t know has ever been test fired and uses a random Brochure to justify it’s existence/stats.

Like I stated before. It’s not a “Vehicle stat” thing but purely how Gaijin treats some nations in this game.

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yes but R27R and T (not even ER and ET) are much better than sparrows, and the ADF flight model was much worse than the F16A that didnt even have sparrows

you are obviously trolling here

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Nerfed?
M829A1, M829A2, 5 second reload.

Abrams has pretty much only been buffed since introduction.
The module system people voted for is an indirect nerf, because it requires you getting penned with both a module and your engine being destroyed at the same time; and 6 things had to go wrong for that to occur.

And you can blame Gaijin for listening to the community all you want. Either way, I and others warned you this would be the result. I voted no on modules, but now that they’re here all we can do is push for them to refine their implementation.

Soviet tanks are not more survivable than NATO tanks.
Survivability is what happens after penetration, and ammo explosions are not more survivable than a damaged module.

F-15C GE is one of the best aircraft.
If you think F-15C can’t reach speeds, then you must think Su-30 is a slug…

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Last game I played :

Launched 1 ebrc jaguar spike to bmpt => direct hit to the UFP => ERAs ate the whole spike.

What’s the point of having “tandem charge atgms” if they don’t actually act like tandem charge atgms ?

Fix your game Gaijin, fix your game. You’re gonna end up with russian players only.

“We have a new gamemode guys, we have a new gamemode”. Yeah but what about the spikes not going where they’re supposed to, the ERAs eating atgms, the ERAs and russian side armors eating darts, russian autoloaders eating darts, that protective sphere for the mi28nm, bmpt modeling, the list of aerial targets refreshing every god damn time in the 12.7 SPAAs menu so we CANNOT select another target because it “instantly refreshes” the menu and redirects you to the first line everytime, russian trunions bouncing your shots like it wasn’t anything, and so much more

Fix your game

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Every tank in the game got better and better ammunition as time went on. I don’t get your point.

Because the module system would’ve made sense if Gaijin did it correctly. But they are either so incompetent that they literally think an ammo box is what controls the entire turret drive or Gaijin hoped to use this as permission to get justification of artificially nerfing NATO tanks and the russian FCS systems are absorbing the spall of a 120mm dart.

And to my knowledge, even the blow out racks now have been artificially nerfed in function.

And an Abrams getting easily obliterated through a single shot into the mantlet is “Survivable” meanwhile the mantlet and FCS of the T-80 just eats the spall.

R-77s have much stronger AoA capacity and the Su-30SM2 basically lets you engage in almost a notch, vs the F-15C GE’s 70 degrees

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The ebr deserved if though for looking like an absolutely fugly pug

Hate this vehicle, hope the spikes never works

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It’s garbage.

It has spall liners everywhere, but I don’t understand why as it doesn’t stop anything.

Spikes don’t work.

It’s just a 5.0 light vehicle brought up at 11.0 br. It’s like that with every nato spike ifvs.

This game is ridiculous, and unbalanced. Everything is given to Russia since 2022 and the war.

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It works, you roll a dice every time you hit something and its tandem so it will go straight through eras. You have 50% chance to one-shot everything you hit, facing them is annoying especially if you are on t-series with -0.00000000001 kph reverse speed, hits that don’t kill you will diables your fcs. thats why i crewed the one with aps, so tired of braindead fnf craps that just hit the button and let the computer to the rest, like why don’t you just write a script and let the AI do everything for you lol

Not only that they are annoying, they are also ugly as f, the british crv block also looks like a crossbreeding that goes wrong with recessive genetic defect.

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and its tandem so it will go straight through eras

Man don’t make me show you the clip explaining that :

Last game I played :

Launched 1 ebrc jaguar spike to bmpt => direct hit to the UFP => ERAs ate the whole spike.

What’s the point of having “tandem charge atgms” if they don’t actually act like tandem charge atgms ?

It’s actually my last game played, it won’t be hard for me to find the clip back.

Spikes don’t act like tandem charges, they just don’t. Relikt seem to eat them, and there is no reason for that.

You have 50% chance to one-shot everything you hit

You mean 15% ?

why i crewed the one with aps, so tired of braindead fnf craps that just hit the button and let the computer to the rest, like why don’t you just write a script and let the AI do everything for you lol

LMURs bois do that every single top tier game. It’s not a problem apparently.

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