Ah, my bad. Thought it was APHE, as I 1 tapped a centurion and the shell looked like it went off as if it was APHE
It’s being fair, not dishonest. There a difference, if you can’t accept that, then your simply being biased.
But thanks for a character attack… (remind me of the fox discussion, where nobody had a valid argument against the fox being 8.0, no it was just character attacks)
So Yes or No are bombs less effective?
You’re ignoring every counter point you’ve been given and continue to argue despite the volume of voices telling you you’re wrong with tons of evidence.
I replied to you attacking someone else.
It’s pretty obvious you’re ignoring evidence because you do not trust his screenshot. What we can see here clearly, without the lense of ignorance, is that a 4.0 prop aircraft shredded an entire enemy team at 6.7
That’s clear and you refuse to except it. A vehicle that performs that well should not be that low.
This is irrelevant after you attacked someone else’s credibility first. If you do not want to be called out for your behavior, do not do it in the first place and claim victim.
Sure, a bomb can kill. Here’s the thing though. A Yak can one hit nearly every single tank at that BR and has damage potential several times even the P-47 Thunderbolt, which cannot defend itself and sits higher in BR.
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Mods advised to not engage with him in a discussion, so I think that there is no point.
Trolls will be just trolls and I belive most of the people on the forum already noticed that part of him.
Staying on topic, anyone who try to defend 45mm APHE in russian air is just simply being dishonest and biased.
Edit: lmao
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Mods told you not to, as you were quite literally stalking me.
(You reported this… to show people you weren’t stalking? Nice).
Lmao.
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Confirmation bias isn’t a character attack 😂 and the enemy team be less than proficient isn’t a character attack.
Oh did I now? I don’t see where I did that, only quite the opposite, being constantly called a lair and so on. I asked for evidence. That’s not a character attack there pal.
You purposely ignore counter evidence, in support of your skewed view of other vehicles, either purposely or not. (Especially when a lot if not most counter arguments are in bad faith).
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I asked for the server replay to see his evidence… that’s not ignoring it.
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I won’t trust someone I don’t trust…? Surprising.
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you just said “Sure. A bomb can kill” can you prove, that everytime, the Yak will kill a tank with a single shot, as you so claim? The P-47 can certainly defend itself. It’s calling knowing how to play the aircraft…
This kind of comment, just discredited you in whole.
Truthful ≠ being a troll
Just twisting perceptions as to make me look bad because I have more valid points. Classic.
Did you not notice that he only killed 1 person before getting that Yak?
You just insulted him again by suggesting he’s falling for Confirmation Bias simply because you can’t wrap your head around the problem. I’m trying to be as nice as I can about this, but you just can’t see it no matter what anyone shows you.
The planes you showed as counterevidence are either higher in BR, more sluggish, or a twin engine.
He shouldn’t need to show it. Questioning his screenshot is random and paints you in a light which makes you appear dishonest.
Yes. And if you don’t, just fire a second time… I have the Polksiturer and know what that can do.
The Yak can do just as much with its cannon and can defend itself.
The P-47 is called the “Jug” for a reason. It’s a literal brick. You cannot turn. If you’re caught performing CAS, you will die.
The Yak may not. It can turn. Almost equally to a Zero, in fact.
Not particularly. Alvis Wisla is known to be a troll.
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He uptiered himself, killed someown with a Bt5, then kept killing. I can do the same with the A-1H, your point??
He was biased on other topics thus I have good reason to believe it to be happening once more.
The planes you showed as counterevidence are either higher in BR, more sluggish, or a twin engine.
Yeah, how does any feature, making them less effective?
I don’t trust his screenshot, as things can be edited, it shouldn’t be so hard for him to reproduce the gameplay link so I can view it. Denying it is far more suspicious
Oh is he now? I’ve only seen him be fair and honest, while being knowledgeable. Care to show me his “trolly words” you so claim?
Especially that server replays are for everyone to see.
But ye, having over 7 K/D in that plane doesn’t let me say that it is overpowered lmao.
To appear more honest I should talk about things I have never or rarely played (and badly).
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Why can’t you link that game in question? Hmm? It’s very suspicious indeed.
Please take it in private. This topic is going sideways :)
29rds of 45mm at 258rpm. Even if you take as much as 3 shots per tank, that’s still ~10 kills. Unlike an Me 410, Hs 129, and arguably even 262 A-1/U-4, it is more than capable of defending itself against other fighters.
At low altitude, it has worse maneuverability, worse climb rate, worse CAS potential, worse energy retention, you name it. Its only advantage is top speed and the acceleration is worse still.
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I love when people defend overtuned CAS.
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So let’s say based on your math…
It takes:
2-3 shots to kill 1 ground target. (Higher than average efficiency for sure.)
In any given match, there will be a 1-2 enemy fighters to engage you.
4-6 rounds used per plane.
Toss in 3-5 missed shots due to spaa engagement.
29rnds =
-4 (first plane)
-5 (second plane)
=9 rounds used
-4 missed shots from spaa interference.
=13 rounds used
-2x8= 16
=29 rounds.
2 plane kills, and 8 ground kills.
Now, we have to factor in armor, fuse, angles, etc.
Let’s say 1 of the 2 planes required 2 APHE hits instead of 1. (Loss of one tank kill due to insufficient ammo).
Let’s say angle and the 58mm pen isn’t enough to pierce a semi bad side hit angle, (under estimation or over estimation of distance), so it costs 3-5 more rounds (4 to be fair). But this occurs twice.
Let’s say you are able to fly back to the airfield, magically all enemy cas couldn’t kill you, neither could the spaa.
So from the 10 “original kills” the estimated actual kills for a good ~ great pilot hovers around:
10 kills:
-1 Round
-4x2=-8
9 out of 29 rounds being ineffective =
2 plane kills, and 5 tank kills, granted everything else goes according to plan, and you avoid all danger.
In all likely hood, in good ~ great conditions as a good ~ great player, you may be able to squeak out 7 kills.
Problem is, most players aren’t as great as I have just estimated. With those 2-3 shots per tank, being upwards of 2-5 if not more.
This is assuming someone is actively using the 45 mm to shoot at aircraft.
I personally wouldn’t.
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Yes, it is very easy to simply bind the 45mm do a different key; I personally tend to put MGs on lmb and cannons on rmb.
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He was biased on other topics thus I have good reason to believe it to be happening once more.
I do not think using people’s conduct in other topics as a mark of some fault is as good an argument as you seem to think. If we’re to set that precedent, it would not serve you well in this debate.
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You have failed to account for its very high damage 12.7s. Both fighter kills can be achieved with them.
Many of your kills will be oneshots if your shot placement is acceptable. 3 shots per kill is inefficient and says more about the pilot. Even if you miss the first shot, you quickly correct on the second one and it will most likely be a kill.
It even has much more spalling than the german 50mm:
Now in a worst-case scenario to really show the difference:
Obviously neither are a kill, but its clear that the 45mm has a lot more damage in it. A second shot from it has a very high chance of killing this Tiger E, while the 50mm will have to aim more carefully.
Let’s add in a few more:
^^Ki-109 can overpressure apparently lol
^^all solid shot is identical to this so only these will be added
^^as I said in my post before, 15mm API(c) has really bad damage lol, below is a DIRECT HIT on the driver’s head, with distance set to 0m!
And should go without saying, but of the above aircraft that actually stand a reasonable chance of killing this Tiger E in one pass, only the Yak-9K is a fighter and only it has good flight performance. Of the APHE slingers, it also has by far the highest rate of fire allowing you to quickly correct a missed shot - a Ki-109 for example will have to wait 3s for the next round, while having to pull up sooner than the 9K due to using a medium bomber airframe.
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