Nah, it isn’t joking.
It is just a silly unarmed plane which got destroyed by a turbocharger explosion.
which was staying shamelessly undertiered and abusing airspawn for centuries.
Losing air spawn is better than getting ridded like R2Y2. right?
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Gaijin doesn’t understand that balancing by player stats is a terrible way of balancing their games, case #98541551447.
The argumentation for the Type 81 is pure bollocks, in no world should it be only 0.3 below the fucking Pantsir. Also funny how the Strela isn’t getting up in BR 🙄
The BR increase for the AMX M4 is fine-ish, but the increase to the AMX-13 and EBR are absurd.
If you insist on increasing the AMX-40’s BR, at least buff it a bit. As it currently is, it does NOT deserve to be 0.3 below the Turms or T-80UD.
Also, you’re now creating a 10.0 lineup for France, but you’re still not fixing the French Roland’s elevation despite multiple bug reports.
The Super Etendard is getting a BR increase to where it doesn’t have a lineup… Again.
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I use it even in 12.7 matches, works good
this is the perfect sample of what i’ve been saying about the type 81C, this thing is launching anti-ship cruise missiles what in the world are those guiding paths? are they going stealth mode?
A 10.0/11.3 tornado with mk103 engines for Britain would be pre-ordered instantly.
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The AMX-40 is slightly more mobile than the Leopard 2A4, fires a similar round, has a similar thermal solution… the difference is the AMX-40 has “no turret armor”.
Yet they are 1 BR apart.
The fact AMX-40 has dodged getting uptiered for so long is outright impressive, it shouldn’t be the same BR as the no-thermal Leopard 2K.
The Leopard 2K dodged uptiers as well until it was finally moved to 10.0.
Your post is 100% correct on Type 81 though, absolutely wild that’s above 11.3, maybe even wild that it’s above 11.0.
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Agreed.
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should be noted that amx-40 is currently its composite armor
The issue is that gaijin is artificially nerfing them by moving them up in BR (no missiles at 10.0 lmao), while also halving their practical flare count, and not allowing the Q-5L to get it’s historically accurate PL-5s, and it’s increased countermeasure count.
It’s equal to the Mig-19s, with the only changes being bomb/napalm compatibility, the ability to carry flares, and in the case of the L, a better RWR.
They should be 9.7 in their current state, and I want someone from Gaijin to prove that they are equal to 10.0s, and only 0.3 worse than 10.3s without using their efficiency statistics.
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Another nothing burger BR update, they moved stuff around that doesn’t matter or didn’t need it. Type 90s ‘ignored’, 7.7 France autoloader garbage ignored, 10.0 to 12.0 is full of slop and is bloated. This game needs decompression for ground and naval.
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Gaijin’s awful logic
But it is. Because even knowing what they are couldn’t lead to anyone baking or altering them. The nature of the game wouldn’t let it. But they are asking (forcing really) players to believe they have numbers that justify this change. So back it up. Show us the data that says this SPAA needs to be a hair from the Pantsir. Show us the data that is preventing the Abrams from getting the M829A3 round. It means nothing to use it and then not disclouse it.
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The Leopard 2k is more mobile than the Leopard 2A4, fires a similar round, has no thermal solution… the difference is the Leopard 2k has “no turret armor”.
Yet they are 0.7 BR apart.
The fact Leopard 2k has dodged getting uptiered for so long is outright impressive, it shouldn’t be the same BR as worse the AMX-40.
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Vehicles that aren’t played much could get it’s BR altered by a group of people that specifically aim to do so just for fun, which is why giving out their full stats can be dangerous.
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You’re altering them either way so I don’t understand the opposition here. How many people where playing the B-29 when it had a 49,000 SL repair cost? Why was it given such a high repair cost? Did Gaijin not want players to use it? What data backed up that decision? We eventually saw it get lowered to something still high but far more reasonable under the economy rework.
But the point is, you are forcing the general player base to trust and accept a change based on data only one side can see. And thats asinine. The player efficiency data should be something you can see on the vehicle’s wiki. Why should I waste my time using a vehicle Gaijin unilately nerfed to a “bad state” because their data said so? Not to mention you also asked for player feedback and then subsequently ignored it.
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The Problem with the Type 81C isnt just it going up in BR.
The problem is you now leave the 11.3 lineup stuck with a BR 9.3 Type 93 as its only option for SPAA, which by then is literally useless, since you are still fighting 12.3 aircraft with 10km Mavs, and things like KA-50s.
Also, you didnt mention the IR drawbacks of high tier helis being almost completely immune to it, impossible to lock beyond ~4km (2.5km for the poor Type 93) and while yes its got the optical lock, that ONLY works if its in clear sky with no clouds and they are high enough above the ground to give a clear background (which helis usually are not).
Yes, its extremely effective against high flying aircraft, but its completely and utterly unusable the second a heli that can fire from more than 4km away spawns.
And no search radar still.
As for the french tanks, I cant argue about the AMX M4, I literally said in a DM to friends the other day that its probably the most broken tank BR for BR currently, its so damn good. Im sad that its going up and ruining the lineup, but theres no real argument I can make. Though I think the AMX-13 is fine at 6.7 and shouldnt go up.
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At this point, BR changes should involve a community vote if they aren’t going to disclose their balancing data in regards to implementation.
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2A5 still not 11.7?
Also TKX, type81 and fuji need to be 12.0
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Indeed, the whole tier 1 BRs for japanese coastal is illogical, nothing has been adjusted accordingly after the replacement of the reserve vehicle.
Moreover, why after all these years finally fixing B-26C BR to be the same as the B-26B in Air RB, but not doing the same for the F-100s and the F-84Fs in Air AB ? Same vehicles with the same equipment having different BRs across different nations is not a normal situation. I have alerted about this situation since years…
@Stona_WT could you please tell us if these issues have been forwarded ?
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