Responding to Feedback on the Planned Battle Rating Changes April 2025

I can see compression causing issues and it being stuck at 11.7, but in either case, yes it needs a BR drop

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I disagree. If you are using it in your argument to adjust something, you need to disclose it. You are quite literally asking players to just blindly trust you on a decision that is impacting them. Anonymity doesn’t fly here. I can understand not disclosing cheat and exploit detection, thats fine. But not here. Leaning way too hard into the “trust me bro” aspect.

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the real nut-kicker change for me was the AMX going to 11.0
oh yeah and the later Q5 variants going to 10.0 is really something else

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They are not asking for blind trust because we KNOW their methods require the stats to be gathered naturally, without parties knowing the specific metrics being gathered.
It’s similar to how anti-cheat devs will never tell alleged cheaters how they were banned, cause disclosing that information makes it easier to manipulate gameplay.

@pooqich
The issue with the Q-5 variants is even in uptiers, they’re extremely survivable doing their strike runs, as very few things can climb as well as a Q-5.

So an interceptor isn’t going to get an air spawn? You’ve gotta be kidding us, right? Please tell me this is a joke.

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Well, because GRB is the money maker. :/

Maybe because we will spend a fortune on Tonka (Saudi) if it comes out, even if Gaijin keeps neglecting ARB/ASB.
Gaijin’s interest in Air will be slowly fade away just like naval did I guess.

dont think spaceclimbers should be a balancing factor

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It’s just that an 11.7 plane launches X38 at 11km and it destroys half the respawn with a splash. And you’re on “one of the most effective SAMs” just looking at it.

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No one said space climbing, if you haven’t learned energy management by now I’d recommend videos by Defyn or others that teach energy management.

Using Q-5’s superior potential energy you out-escape enemies long enough for them to get engaged by a team mate, and Q-5’s strength comes from baiting enemies into targeting you while the superior fighters deal with them due to Q-5’s superior climb rate.

The climb is the strongest tool for weakness of all aircraft that lack high TWR.

Then the Q-5 goes back to getting thunderer as they do every single match.

In Gaijin’s theory
Every 4-engine prop bomber needs to be higher than 7.0 as long as they are extremely survivable in their strike runs
if they spaceclimb with sideclimbing and camp in high ground, unless the enemy brings jets. :P

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At 7.7 it was a beast. At 8.0 its fine. it turns like a paper aircraft. Meaning they made it as light as they could theoretically make it.

oh, you meant their energy generation? yeah makes sense, but consider that this playstyle is very team dependant and requires your enemies to actually bother engaging your Q5 (since the plane itself is not good offense-wise, you cant really dictate the fight)

also shhh dont talk about the wager strat…

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Nah, it isn’t joking.
It is just a silly unarmed plane which got destroyed by a turbocharger explosion.
which was staying shamelessly undertiered and abusing airspawn for centuries.

Losing air spawn is better than getting ridded like R2Y2. right?

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Gaijin doesn’t understand that balancing by player stats is a terrible way of balancing their games, case #98541551447.

The argumentation for the Type 81 is pure bollocks, in no world should it be only 0.3 below the fucking Pantsir. Also funny how the Strela isn’t getting up in BR 🙄

The BR increase for the AMX M4 is fine-ish, but the increase to the AMX-13 and EBR are absurd.

If you insist on increasing the AMX-40’s BR, at least buff it a bit. As it currently is, it does NOT deserve to be 0.3 below the Turms or T-80UD.
Also, you’re now creating a 10.0 lineup for France, but you’re still not fixing the French Roland’s elevation despite multiple bug reports.

The Super Etendard is getting a BR increase to where it doesn’t have a lineup… Again.

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I use it even in 12.7 matches, works good

this is the perfect sample of what i’ve been saying about the type 81C, this thing is launching anti-ship cruise missiles what in the world are those guiding paths? are they going stealth mode?

A 10.0/11.3 tornado with mk103 engines for Britain would be pre-ordered instantly.

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The AMX-40 is slightly more mobile than the Leopard 2A4, fires a similar round, has a similar thermal solution… the difference is the AMX-40 has “no turret armor”.
Yet they are 1 BR apart.

The fact AMX-40 has dodged getting uptiered for so long is outright impressive, it shouldn’t be the same BR as the no-thermal Leopard 2K.
The Leopard 2K dodged uptiers as well until it was finally moved to 10.0.

Your post is 100% correct on Type 81 though, absolutely wild that’s above 11.3, maybe even wild that it’s above 11.0.

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Agreed.

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