I also have an issue with the BR of the Super Étendard at 11.0. In the same fashion, it’s comparatively much worse than say the MiG 27K at the same BR. The SEM using only 2 AS30L or GBUs is also completely outclassed by long range SAM (ADATS, ITO, Pantsir), and the maximum 2 magic 1 in air-air makes it completely irrelevant against any aircraft near or above 11.0 (its air RB BR is a good example).
I think 10.7 is the max BR it should go to, as it puts it at the very lowest at 9.7, where most nations feature at least MANPAD SAMs.
The Mirage 2000 D R1 at just one BR bracket above is significant’y better in every single metric : speed, maneuverability, air to air, air to ground, countermeasures…
And it’s not like it has a lineup at either BR. The plane is quite rarely used, and only with the current 10.7 leopard at best (but usually the now 10.0 AMX40 + VEXTRA lineup) and 11.0 will force the player to uptier their 9.7-10.7 to 11.0, where full uptiers against top of the line vehicles are common
It’s not obsolete but simply not the most effective. After all it has good weapons and decent pod, specially in simulator battles where ground striking are very important to end a match with the destruction of the enemy’s airfield.
seems like we have the issue of only good players being able to do well in certain vehicles so only good players play it which makes their stats look better then they actually are.
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F/A-18A continue to terrorize anything within the 12.3-11.3 range. Great job gaijin. US mains babied as always. Brilliant.
I fully see how it is looking amazing in statistics. If you only spawn it in ideal weather conditions, with no friendly SAM and multiple close flying enemy aircraft clearly visibly to you it is amazing.
Issue is this is not what most or even just the average game looks like, so instead players don’t spawn it and are forced to rely on teammates or gather the points for a fighter. Statistics can’t show how many times a player decides to not spawn it, so it seems overpowered on paper.
My guess for why they stick with it, is that there is probably a rigid internal rule, that says if a vehicle is straying too far from the desired statistics value, they are not allowed to listen to opposite feedback anymore. That’s probably why this sounds like it’s written by someone not playing the game, because that’s probably who made this rule in the first place.
Gajin if u dont do it. I buy Khalid on fullprice.
If u do it, im going donate in EVE.
Made ur choice!
we might as well move it to 12.0 while were at it because we all know every french vehicle is op and needs to be nerfed
P-47D-30s are the same plane but with airbrakes but they stay 5.0. Obviously Italy and China pilots are bit better on average than US but really We don’t have enough decompression for airbrake on a plane to add 0.3 br. Not even going to mention D-30 being 3.7 in air sim which is a crime against humanity.
Oh, so you guys didnt listen to any of the feedback. Like at all. Not surprising but still disappointing.
Why ask about feedback when most requested ones are rejected cause ‘efficiency’ that we can’t even see? What’s the point?
Recommend to do the vote about the BR change, cause it will be clearer.
Don’t move up the BR of AMX 13/M4/EBR, and Type 81.
Have Gaijin forgotten about air battle simulations? The mode has even been completely removed from the list.
Oh… Snail… Why don’t you listen to my plea to lower the BR of my AMX-13 (HOT)… I’ll melt before I salt you…
funny jokes man. i almost fell for it.
I think calling this “Responding to Feedback” is a bit deceitful.
It’s like calling the police when a gang of people break into your house and no one responding until 2 weeks later a community support officer turns up asking about what happened.
Like sure you have responded to a few things but compared to how much feedback was given it’s a bit of a lie, especially when some of the most liked feedback was just completely ignored.
Would it be too much effort to go back to the original thread and respond to the most liked feedback?
All battle ratings changes without an increase in max BR is just moving around compression. Compression isn’t fun, and people would rather wait in longer que times for a better decompressed Battle Ratings, any changes that don’t achieve this are just suboptimal and lazy development.
Like seriously. Players said don’t raise the AMX-40. And their response was to still increase it but then mention an entitely different vehicle, give it a new round, and then raise that vehicle as well. Like what?! And the AMX-40 isnt getting it?
How is that listening to feedback?
Exactly, like just some explanations on the changes they are going ahead with and what they reject would be nice.
If they ask for feedback we should have a response concerning it.
Like I said above we should have the most liked feedback from the original BR threads picked and discussed when the revised BR changes come out, even if they weren’t changed but just to have the reason for the change/lack of would be great.
Players actually wanted to move Vextra up with a new shell.