At what point did I say they are not the same thing?
I’ve stated from the start hte red army hasnt been a thing since 1946 and instead was renamed to the soviet army ?
Other than that weve got right off topic.
Is that why they slapped era on the abrams? And the cops cage? Kinda weird eh? Doesn’t make much sense if it doesn’t work.
But yes proxy fuse 12.7 or 20mm a are better against drones.
Get back on topic to discuss how it was a good change? And now people are salty they got nerfed?
How’s about the fix the auto loader repair times. So they aren’t 30+ secs
Let’s not forget that over time there was going to be a hydraulics leak from the pump for the turret that it would gradually slow down if damaged. Those never got implemented either on the Abrams or Leo’s
Where exactly did you get this information? can’t find anything that says they’ve made more than 20 or 30-ish
Ah yes, the voice of the opposition.
How long were autoloaders allowed to function, while manual reload wasn’t possible, in case of:
- barrel and or breach damage;
- FPE activation;
- loader killed, which really drops the reload south of 10sec;
- crew swap, where loader dropped the shells switch seats and then went back;
For any manual loader to receive max speed, you need: max crew skills in reload and command and purchase Expert (1.120.000 SL) or ACE (1.430.000 RP or 2300 GE), which leo2 needs to be faster then T-80 (6.5s) loader. A thing autoloaders don’t have to do, granted would help other stats but not reload.
If you think repair is to long, make a topic about it.
While not at top tier USSR, currently at T80B, Object 292, etc, having aced all T-72 series before that i can say, they can take quite a beating and never had much issues with the autolader. Sure zooming around in a Type 90 or Type 10p is more fun, but they have nowhere near the power to push towards an objective, armor is non-existant.
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U answered the other guy with this bruh😑
Right… So u are a dude that has a family and doesnt want o die. Even if it doesnt work they will surely take it no matter what
Not really. Those sensitive components are maybe 5% of the surface area of the turret basket.
This is also a gross simplification. The turret on the Abrams, for example, often rips pieces off the turret basket. When it does this the tank continues to function normally. The hydraulics operate at 1500-1700 psi, the basket is not strong enough to stand up to that.
A USMC veteran on the M1A1 Abrams tank: “This tank was designed for assault!” - News - War Thunder
I know what I’m talking about. Basically you are providing inaccurate and ignorant justifications. If you are doing this for balance, fine. But it has nothing to do with realism. Don’t try and hide behind that please.
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Whats your point? thats literally what ive been saying this whole time?
EDIT: What you have said, and are also saying makes zero sense at all.
and also absolutely off topic so isntead of getting locked or muted, enough is enough
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U said that red army WASNT soviet army
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What’s better is this gem is left alone and still present.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/N56mDqoohdMa
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I hate this change as well and never clamored for it. Why would anyone ever learn aim if no matter where you place your shots your guaranteed to disable something? It’s making the game more like call of duty where no matter how bad your aim is who ever gets the first shot in wins
Most people’s caveats to no no damage hits fell squarely on the snail’s spaghetti code( or hidden tweaks and modifiers)which will still happen btw regardless if there is a component there or not
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It’s also INCREDIBLY fake. Just pure fantasy. It’s not how it works in the Abrams at all.
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A broken barrel / breech didn’t allow you to continue to reload / fire. Once it was broken, it was broken, not sure where you pulled that from. FPE activation shouldn’t stop an auto loader, nor a fully crewed manual loaded tank.
I’m glad you bring up manually loaded tanks, because even with the loss of two crew the abrams is quite survivable, as dead crew eat spall.
You ever think the cons to the series work in favor of the NATO tanks or no?
Leo 2: 6.0 sec reload
T-80B: 7.1 sec maxed reload.
Your point? Leo 2 has better armor btw. And an aced crew has far more benefits than your simplified statement.
Well for having that extra pen and damage, it loses armor, reload, mgs, and it can be ammo racked even easier.
Are you crazy?
They had over 20+ before 2020, “The Russian state conglomerate Rostec stated in December 2021 that serial production had commenced, with “more than 40” Armata tanks anticipated to be delivered to Russian troops after 2023.”
If following the values in which they’ve been producing them. It is likely above or around 62~
Buddy talking like the Armata got some UFO level of Tech.
I said that the name was changed and it technically wasnt the same thing.
like how the league of nations became nato essentially.
im saying the RUSSIAN army isnt the sme as the red army
Like a mig25 situation int it realistically, we have it on paper that its a wonder weapon.
IRL isnt it likely to be around the same if only marginally better than a sep V3, 2a8 etc etc.
I mean the chinese MBTs IRL are about on par as well from what we know.