I strongly beg to differ, pre aam nerf the pansir may have been better in long range g pull. Now adays, that is not the case
S1 is master at not moving. I ve seen many times these dudes stand in 1 damn place like any spaa but as i said s1 is just almost untouchable and shoot any munition.
I play A10C and its VERY different when flarakrad or s1 spawns
You didn’t get what I was saying. You fly any plane in, and stay flying straight, an aam will hit you.
Anyone that flies straight have skill issue. And that whats happening in russian teams. They dont have to make any manouvers they are still getting 6 kills but MAYBE die in a process
That doesnt happen in any other teams. Fly straight and die but without any kills
I know how important it is to move out. But almost all maps are simply very, very small. You can’t really move off very far.
Also these AA trucks are very high profile, maps aren’t designed for them and it results that you get shot by other ground units. Something will always stick out to be shot.
For S1 its more or less irrelevant. With TWS on screen radar brackets, very long range missiles, great thermals, K Band etc etc you have a great situational awareness. Western jets have rather weak ordnance and can’t outrange Pantsirs in a meaningful way. TWS also means S1 spots incoming ordnance much easier, add to this that everything is rather slow moving and it becomes hopeless. There are no western super fast air to ground missiles which are smoke immune and leave a 5m deep crater upon impact…nuking everything around.
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T-14 too advanced for it to be in game
Only options would be
T-90M 2023 mod
Then Abram’s sepv3
Then 2A8
Adding the armata with the 2A8 and SEPV3 would literally be the equivalent of introducing typhoid to a coughing baby without a vaccine.
The armata would crush em
No crew in the turret
Better mobility
Better gun depression
Better armor
An APS
You could literally go hull down and can’t even be killed
The equivalent to the other 2 is literally only the 2023 mod of the T-90M
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Armata is a abandoned project. It was cancelled. All these points you mention are not really valid. Instead it was decided to modernize existing depot tanks from long term storage and increase T-90 production. Which makes sense, cause T-14 couldn’t fullfill its expectations.
advance? advance in what? advance as in who disappear on the battlefield faster? or advance in that it cant be seen because its cancelled?
the copium is massive
probably better reverse
looking at the crew position this thing would have the equivalent of the 2s38 armor with ERA
i can see that its useful in some case but seeing how gaijin model ingame APS, doubt
same thing said for the AGS, you cant kill it hull down. To counter it, simply put “hello high explosive round looking good today aint it” or you can just breech them yk. This thing is just basically 2s38 without turret armor rack and use T-xx 125mm round
Also the Armata is cancelled, the project could not fufill the expectation as it was suppose to be better than the T-90s which ofc not, it was too expensive, too complicated, not enough armor + now that the T-90M has the Arena APS the APS on it is irrelevant, just another russian tank project that failed because the T-xx from Stalinium is just irreplaceable
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Sounds like a very good suggestion we will be adding armata in few months -gayjin
Closest thing to that are the IR Hammers - which truly aren’t that bad against most pantsir players.
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IR hammers are actually good because of the arching trajectory, you can’t shoot them down as effectively as Kh, but the time to target is higher so it’s easier to smoke.
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Good thing Pantsirs don’t get smoke grenades…
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Which ones are the Hammers? AARM 250 (SBU 64)?
From what I remember, yes.
Then call them that. Not everyone knows the nicknames of everything.
Not everyone knows the actual name of them either.
I think you can agree that it’s easier to say 3.7 Puma than Sd.Kfz. 234, or Jumbo 76 instead of M4A3E2 (76W).
Same with bullpups, mavericks, and skipper (who casually calls them AGM-12s / AGM-65s / AGM-123s???).
Don’t forget the Armata gets Vaccum 1 which is far better round than previous Russian ammo,
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This just proves to me you know absolutely nothing about the T-14 Armata
The armored capsule of the Armata is 800mm+ RHA frontally, and I believe 500 on the sides. The turret area is the least armored, and made light incase of ammo cookoff, it’ll just blow the turret off and save the crew, it also has some form of floor blow out panel.
They finally gave the Armata a transmission upgrade over previous tanks.
It’s overhauled gun can tank better projectiles and even be upgraded to a 152mm.
It has an auto matic APS that detects lases and rounds being fired directly at it. It won’t totally stop APFSDS, but was rumored to degrade APFSDS by 60%
Relict was mounted all over frontally and on the sides for greater protection.
Nor was the Armata canceled. Yes it’s being produced in very minimal numbers as it isn’t the priority, but they have about 60+~ of them now.
I do call them that because it’s easier on people who play this game for fun instead of LARPing being a part of the military. Hence why I don’t say Fox 3s (an inherit American specification), I call them AIM 120s, MICAs, R-77, etc. It is better to be specific on what you are talking about instead of using nicknames that makes zero sense to anyone who doesn’t indulge in the military.
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then why is not in service?