Remove R-27ER

or maybe give better version of AIM-7 like P or MH and there you go problem solve.

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AIM-7F,M were used to be good but after nerf, its shit.
Easily evadable and slow.

Every radar missiles are evadable if you fly low.
But 27ER uses Inertial Guidance, its significantly harder to evade even if you fly low.

Existence of 27ER makes players force to act evasive maneuver and end up losing energy.
And su-27 got 5 more to shoot, you’ll eventually die anyway.

Mig-29s were ok since it could only carry 2.
But 6, its getting out of hands.

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Not sure why you want to move the Mig-29A from 12.0 to 11.7.
R-27Rs are equivalent to AIM-7E-2s.

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On paper maybe. In my experience R23R / R24R track target really well in all aspects. On the other hand, sparrows like to track anything BUT the locked target.

A year ago? Sure. F/M sparrows reigned supreme. Hell, I even got an 8 kill game with the F-14A once with them. I rather take sidewinders now instead of the sparrows.

R24R is better than R27R and everyone knows that

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Bro, your original argument was R3R vs sparrows is not fair. I am telling you that Russia has more radar missiles than R3R.
Namely R23R, R24R, R27R.

So removing the R27ER temporarily would be a good step towards balance.

Not sure if you are trolling at this point.

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Wrong person m8

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Whoops. Saw yellow M. This is why older forums were better.

Point still stands.

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My argument was not in relation to current radar missiles. It was to the history of them in game.

OK you probably have a short memory then. Let me refresh it.
R3R vs AIM9C
R23R vs AIM7D
R24R vs AIM7E
R27R vs AIM7F/M → balanced up to this point
R27ER vs AIM7F/M 🤡

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If only r23r was added against 7d if only r24r was added against 7e, and the r27r that is worse than r24r and both 7f/m while being most similar to 7e2

If only USA did not dominate every sarh/ARH before er came if only at every BR except now

if only any plane with r23/24r had as many missiles as any of phantoms/f14’s

The game in order to balance has been deleted a large number of weapons in active service,Why only subtract and not add?If you just want a simple confrontation, you can play the low BR such as 2.7~6.0

R-27ERs are unnecessary for the Flanker considering the loadout, however keep them for Fulcrum and Yak-131 since they are limited with only two.

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In other words "I miss when I could take off in my F-14, fire some missiles and MiG-21s and get 5 kills a match. Please bring it back Gaijin.

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Your data is absolutely not correct

Adoption took place much later than mass production. The R-27R/T rocket has been mass-produced since 1983, and the R-27ER since 1986
Moreover, in the Su-27 game of the 19th series, it appeared at the turn of 1986-1989

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From what I’ve seen, the R27ER spent a lot of time between initial production and actually entering service due to a bunch of issues/tweaks they wanted done before it entered service

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From what I can find on the wiki
R3r vs aim7d from september 2nd 2020 until june 2021.
R-23r vs aim7e from june 2021 until september 2021.
R-23r vs aim7e2 from september 2021 until october 2021.
R24r vs aim7e2 from october 2021 until december 2021
Hard to find the dates so i will have to double check when i get time