Remove PL-12 from Chinese Su-30MKK

nah iam gonna pull up the datamine for both the aim120 and Pl12, way quicker and no way to argue against that

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Most people won’t even understand it and just ignore it I bet lol
Also, missile spreadsheet is still outdated right? (Not like there were any seeker changes but still)

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here you can see that both the Aim-120 and Pl-12 have the same seeker code, with the only difference being that the Pl-12 has a higher gimbal limit but the performance of the seeker itself is identical

and here are the links to those two files in the datamines

WT Datamines Pl-12

WT Datamines Aim-120A

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Personally, I don’t see any major differences between the R-77 (RVV-AE) and the PL-12 as of today; this change wouldn’t make much of a difference in the aircraft’s performance. Here’s a gameplay clip from yesterday on the SU-27SM— it just has slightly more powerful engines and two more ARH missiles; I’m sure that if I were flying an SU-30MKK, I’d also manage to get 5+ frags… (holy down-tier). YouTube

The problem is BR compression, but honestly, even today, the premium SU-30 could land at 13.7 and still hold its own—especially since its radar recently got a buff and finally tracks targets correctly (the radar antenna tracks the TWS target vertically, which means the radar loses track of the TWS target less often).

Are you good enough to be self critical of your performance? Can you say you do everything 100% correct anytime you play?

Naaah dont remove nothing… learn to counter. Have a nice day.

The R-77 is stupidly good close range, but the Pl-12 is better at medium ranges iirc (I maybe incorrect). Plus it still pulls super well.

Also Gaijn shouldn’t remove them since, well.

It uses them IRL.

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Yeah lmao

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Not really

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incorrect nerf

my r77s when I use them seem to have tracking issues maybe that’s just me but PL-12s work must better


Work fine for me

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Thats happening with a lot of missiles atm. ESPECIALLY ones that pull a lot (R-77, MICA)

Something to do with the autopilot and new Missile Changes.

PL-12s turn the same as R77s now and have better range I saw clip of that French yt getting 100km kill with pl12A

yea gajins rocket science seems to have glitched there

dawg you cannot say “you cant notch pl-12” when literally all you do is multipath and fly into trees

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can’t get killed if you’re already dead.

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They do not

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yes they do and they don’t have tracking issues

you say when your screenshot shows the r-77 pulling significantly harder than the Pl-12

out spreading misinfo again it seems

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