Remove KH38

the jewish heli has like 16 of them, the sum of all CAS in top tier is cancer

This is in context of ground vehicles… like Namer, Puma, whatever other poor IFV has to suffer from Spikes.

Pretty sure they buffed their pen, and they usually target the drivers hatch in the T series tanks. They are better than before at least. The italian vehicle with 12 of them is pretty good

Going from “utterly useless” to “mostly utterly useless” ain’t that much better if you ask me. Granted, Freccia benefits the most from it, but that’s only because it has so many of them so it doesn’t have to “ration” them like everything else, afaik Namer has only four, Puma also has four, and Lynx has recently been nerfed to just two, iirc?

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They should remove all FnF ammunition from this game, if not cas as a whole

the targeting still is botchy as heck

additionaly many ifv fnf launchers suffer under stiff launcher syndrom where u cant adjust the launch angle, resulting in a minimum engagement distance and general skewed targeting

I’ve been killed wayyy too many times at almost point blank range with them so I’m salty about that

The more advanced weapon systems get, the more imbalanced the game becomes, who would’ve thought.

Still remember when the best CAS for each nation was some variant of MiG-15 or G.91 or F.86, even though we already had 3rd gen MBTs in the game, lol.

its the same annoyance in every BR, top tier is just next level cas oppression

you don’t know what ad hominem means

that’s not how it works. you brought up my quality as one of the reasons why my take is bad. ad hominem.

let’s look at what i’ve said in the first place:

so now youre grasping at straws, because a quote does not have to be an exact copy paste. by saying “go behind a building” i meant “hide”. so no, we have not agreed upon the statement that I never meant “hide” anywhere.

grim. your comprehension of text is so weird: you see accusations against you everywhere… I’m sure more reddit spacing will help though

That’s why I’ve switched to playing DayZ, at least oppression there is universal :D

i doubt that happend from a kf41 and co

puma or freccia and namer maybe,

but definitly not kf41, vilkas, the new namers. those will fly straight over you

I’ve been playing rust but thats just as cancer. less boring than this game at least

Where did I bring up “your quality”? Do show me a screenshot.

so now youre grasping at straws

You wanna mention how you’ve taken these comments out of order, and failed to fetch one of mine, that you strawmanned? Or nah?

grim.

See, this is why I like this place, you can be accused of something, and when you call people out on things, they will try to gaslight you that they never said anything along the lines of what they actually did.

Add SLAM would be better

there.

and how does the order affect the matter?

you called me out on something only you “saw”. I said “Don’t act like spikes can’t kill tanks” because that is a common theme people mention in every discussion about spikes that I have seen. but you take it personally; you think I accuse you of pushing a take that spikes can’t kill tanks. do not blame others for your mental disposition.

Neither of them brings up “your quality” as neither mentions how you’re performing as a player which is what “quality” entails 99.9% of the time. You’re grasping at straws while also having a hard time understanding definitions, work on that.

and how does the order affect the matter?

Possibly… because it misrepresents the order in which things have been said, like…

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My original position, and your distorted and dumbed down version of my position that you also mocked.

you called me out on something only you “saw”. I said “Don’t act like spikes can’t kill tanks” because that is a common theme people mention in every discussion about spikes that I have seen. but you take it personally; you think I accuse you of pushing a take that spikes can’t kill tanks. do not blame others for your mental disposition.

What others say in other threads about the Spike, what it can and cannot do, is irrelevant when the argument/accusation is aimed at me and specifically at me, not at others, as there was no mention of “other threads”. I suggest that you drop the special pleading, it really ain’t helping your case more than simply saying “my bad G” would, especially since you’re still insisting on me ‘having issues’ cause I didn’t just shrug off your accusation, which is ironic now that I think about it seeing as you’ve been finding “ad hominems” directed at you at each and every turn.

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they bring up my quality, as they regard how I play.

yeah your original position should have been made in a more stable mood. firstly you do a 180 on my vulnerability quote, secondly you have your own definition of hiding. which is different from mine. in my original position:
bmp2m has to show its turret to guide its missile, while spike carriers do not have to show anything for a prolonged period of time, hence the requirement of vulnerability that bmp2m has. my only mistake was thinking your definition of hiding aligned with mine - which is to actually cover completely behind something protective. so like i said, communication issue.

you really cannot consider someone not accusing you. you reject that idea right away, you call it gaslighting and stay put. as for the other threads, I just told you why I told you not to complain about spikes having a hard time with tanks.

well how can I not try to help you? god, you were being toxic from the start lol. you sound like an angsty teen, and sorry, the reddit quips and formatting do not help (so naturally I want to help a fellow war thunder player to get out of that pit). I started the discussion pretty light heartily with the copium thing. shame you’re too busy getting emotional and such about all of this

anyway it seems like you concede with your last words, however cringe they may be, so goodnight!

lightheartedly*

Who is they.

yeah your original position should have been made in a more stable mood

This makes no sense. There is no point in calling me “emotional” just because you think I was, you have no basis for it other than what you perceive as “emotion”, this, by the way, can be considered a tu quoque…

in my original position:
bmp2m has to show its turret to guide its missile, while spike carriers do not have to show anything for a prolonged period of time, hence the requirement of vulnerability that bmp2m has. my only mistake was thinking your definition of hiding aligned with mine - which is to actually cover completely behind something protective. so like i said, communication issue.

This is the first time you’ve explained your position in more depth than just (disclaimer: this representation will be the way it will be for comedic purposes); “lol its just invulnerable okay”.

This “communication issue” has been only on your part, as you’ve failed time and time again to explain yourself, instead, you defaulted to insulting me, to misrepresentating my words, and at times, taking things out of order and out of context just so you could create your own narrative and act like a victim. I hate to say this, but this is a very childish thing to do.

you really cannot consider someone not accusing you. you reject that idea right away, you call it gaslighting and stay put.

Why would I not reject it when it is what it is? You having a difficult time with understanding that doesn’t make it untrue.

the reddit quips and formatting do not help

What. You must be the only one here attending to reddit I guess.

Cringe.