Remove Abrams from china

MSIP II is a 2000s upgraded that came with HMD and new radar which is what we have in game

MSIP I was 80s

Huh? It is in-service, though.
They’re however undergoing PoBIT.

Tested, but not fielded until decades later.
Those were later upgrades, which is my point; they are getting their later upgrade packages…

Point still stands, no?

USA loves exporting weapons IRL and goes to great lengths to do it. USSR did as well but less. China is rising up in the ranks for many African nations. Some Asian and middle Asian countries as well.

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nope

iirc MISP I was for F15A, and wasnt finished while MSIP II was for F15C with both being carried out in the early 80s,

and the radar was included in that MSIP program

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Let’s to an experiment:
What nation should the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo fighter plane go?

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  • China
  • USA
0 voters

yes, but missing multiple upgrade packages

might be true if the in game MSIP II had any of the features added in JHMCS, but it doesnt

so it is actually closer to being the Agile Eye HMD tested in the 80s

no? how does it

and before you say HMD says its more recent, the same testing with HMD on an F15C MSIP also included it being installed in an F15E cockpit

Taiwan

No MSIP I was for the F15A and F15C but the F15A never got it ( well got some of it when it went to the National guard in the 90s)

MSIP I included radar upgrade and Countermeasures (PSP upgrade)

MSIP II is only F15C and 2000s

It’s still a ~2008-2013 aircraft.

  • JHMCS fully standard
  • SNIPER XR widespread
  • Full-color glass cockpit
  • CCIP / avionics upgrades

There’s NO way that it’s any earlier than 2008.
That’s just gimping by Gaijin.

Such as?
Do tell.
Poor modelling does not excuse it from being a JHMCS.

It stands because it’s literally a late-production upgraded F-15E, regardless of its introduction date.
It’s not a baseline.
And even then, the F-15E got HMD at like, ~2007 also.

actually looking into it a bit more its missing features that Agile Eye had

the in game HMD doesnt even show where the target your radar is locked is
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while Agile Eye did

That’s just poor modelling.
It does remain a JHMCS. Or well, was intended to be one.

thats not how it works,

if you want to say it is a mid 2000’s aircraft with JHMCS it needs to have the features of, and preform like that mid 2000’s aircraft

whereas right now it does not have those features or capabilities so it cant be considered that recent of an aircraft

gaijin gave it JHMCS

issue is that they halfed assed it

It could literally ONLY be a JHMCS.
The F-A-18Cs, 18Es, and F-15Es literally use the EXACT same HMD with the same half-assed capabilities.
Unless you mean to tell me the 18E uses a system it has never even been tested/lived with.

idk what to tell you

I judge it by how its modeled in game, and right now its modeled as a pre Agile Eye HMD (somewhere between VTAS and Agile Eye in terms of features)

Then you’re factually incorrect, because there’s simply no way for it to be DASH/Agile Eye.
The F/A-18E alone employing the exact same HMD disproves your point, because it has never even been wired, tested, or even caught with the Agile Eye…
It’s digital-native from the start.

Oh well, the UK doesn’t need an Abrams.

i know what to tell you

look at the helmet


Pain and suffering subtree for UK already

Um… B-29 is only in USA.
Most B-17s are only in USA, with USA having the most advanced of them.
F-111A and F are only in USA, and F is the most advanced Vark as well.
F-4C and S are only in USA.
P-47M is only in USA, and is the most advanced P-47 in-game.
B-57B is only in USA.
M60 AMBT and 120S are only in USA, and are the most advanced M60s in-game.

The list goes on.

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