Removal of APDS round on xm246?

[MrBombastic8]

They recently remove apds from xm246, it cant do anti tank like gepard anymore

[MJPIA]

Likely just copy paste from the gepard being corrected like the VT-5 and 2S19 having shells and stats from other vehicles initially

[MagikWT]

Eh just use it as an SPAA. It would’ve never been able to keep up with the Gepard anyways.

[MrBombastic8]

but dont the xm246 have he-vt

[MagikWT]

Afaik the 35mm Oerlikons don’t get HE-VT, not in WT atleast.

[MrBombastic8]

it does have it actually
HEI-PD(High Explosive Incendiary - Point Detonating), HEI-PX(High Explosive Incendiary - Proximity fuze)

Meet the IRL XM246

[image] The XM246 was the vehicle that lost to the XM247, the vehicle that became the M247 Sergeant York in the DIVAD (Division Air Defense) program of the late 70ties early 80ties. Infamously known as the “good” DIVAD that hit more targets and unfairly lost to the “comically bad” Sergeant York, it is otherwise largely unknown and its info is sparse but we can infer a lot of the relevant specs from the information and requirements known about the DIVAD program.

TLDR

It’s an self-propelled anti-…

Xm-246

poll XM-246 [XM-246] Hello everyone :), what I would like to introduce today is XM-246 anti-air tank. Introduction In the late 1970s, the M163 and MIM-72 in the United States were already outdated at that time. Therefore, the US Army requested the development of a new self-propelled anti-aircraft gun to replace them. The project was initially called the “Advanced Radar Guided Artillery Air Defense System” (ARGADS), later renamed “Division Air Defense” (DIVAD). The project required the …

[MJPIA]

If it got the Motorola proximity fuse then it’d be the same BR as the sgt York instead of giving the US a Gepard equivalent which would leave the current gap where people are relying on the rather crap M163

[Gale_Cleven]

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[MrBombastic8]

it isnt even gepard equivalent, no apds, way slower, less armor on turret than gepard
its a worse copy and paste
way worse

[MagikWT]

Then it would go to 9.0 almost instantly, and the York is already there.

[MrBombastic8]

then whats the point of it
fill the gap but like its so pointless, atleast give it apds for balancing no?
the sole purpose is to fill 8.3 gap but when its way slower, no apds, slightly less protection, cant do anti tank like gepard
what does it do other than killing plane when grinding for m247 is better

[MagikWT]

You gotta remember its an SPAA…
It does that job well.

[MJPIA]

Okay and why are you judging an AA solely by its ability to kill ground targets?

Especially since it still has the API which can go through the sides of most anything?

[MrBombastic8]

why taking its apds away
its already a lesser version of the gepard then why cant it atleast have the same capability of the gepard

[MJPIA]

Because you can mix AP and HE with each other since they are the same velocity but can’t mix sabot?

Again, why do you need sabot for an AA who’s purpose is to shoot down planes?

[MrBombastic8]

@MJPIA

Again, why do you need sabot for an AA who’s purpose is to shoot down planes?

Rephrase: Why do you need an anti-air round for a tank who’s purpose is to engage and shoot other tanks?

[STGN]

Still the XM246 has a small magazine in the gunshield, that is likely where the APDS was stored, removing the APDS as an option is wrong.

[STGN]

Because the DIVADs had 3 roles, shoot planes, shoot helicopters and shoot armored fighting vehicles, it was not only an AA but also a fire support vehicle for ground assults.

[MrBombastic8]

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[STGN]

You hate me because other people didn’t research properly and created a historically wrong HSTV-L? Okay, but you should really be mad at the people who told you something wrong and got your hope up for something that didn’t exist.