Which is what makes me laugh, people are against the T90 and potential su-30mki because “russian copy paste” even though the Indians put a lot of effort and work into developing those specific vehicles for their home use (like a completely new turret and engine system, or completely different missiles) meanwhile seem to want to gobble up literal copy vehicles from the US and Germany.
Western nation wants western designs
cough bae hind cough. Not exactly western design lol.
Don’t want the hind either so not sure your point
That its generally a popular addition, those against it seem to be a minority when it comes up.
None of the Brit mains I know. I have Soviet trees so if I want Soviet based vehicles I play that. I play western trees to play western vehicles. India would have been better not as a set sub tree imo but shared in the trees of the tanks origins.
Tbh I’d prefer Israel get India, they already operate a mix of east and west stuff (so that will save others complaining) and actually need a subtree
I suspect they will get Jordan maybe
Yep, agreed. If I had wanted an Su-30. I’d have grinded the soviet TT.
I’m still waiting for additions like the Hawk, Gnat, Vulcan, Jag Gr3A, Harrier Gr9A, etc etc. heck we still don’t even have a proper bomber mosquito yet
And the list of options is massive:
And that’s not including the aircraft we’ve already got to get buffed up to a really healthy state. Many of the aircraft we’ve got are underperforming significantly. What id give for the FRS1 or Gr4 to be at IRL performance.
The only reason why I think people want C&Ps so much is because it means they can get the best of multiple trees by grinding just one.
I have seen people coping about The Olifants, which is to put it bluntly, buck wild.
As someone said, “western nation wants western vehicles”
Meaning it’s based in racial prejudice
So if you wanted an Abrams or Leopard or F-18 you’d grind the US or Germany and not ask for them in the British tree, right?
Abrams and F-18 I dont really care about. Sure, A Canadian F-18 would be nice and help patch a bit of a hole we have at 12.7 and it would add nothing to the US tree, but I also woudlnt care if we never got it. (though the CF-18 skins are pretty cool)
The canadian leopard 2 would have been nice for allowing for a decent Canadian line-up with the ADATS and a future LAVIII (100% Canadian vehicle). Canadians being spread across 3? 4? different TTs at the moment is really stupid (same can be said for the Australians) in any case, it would have been a far far better addition than the T-90 as a SQV, but even then I would have prefered the Challenger 1 Falcon from Jordan or better yet, literally any decent light tank/IFV given we still dont even really have a decent one for that BR range and back then we didnt even have the DW.
No not racial. Sociopolitical. Nothing to do with race at all. Even your own attempt at an example isn’t racial but national. Britain, America, Germany are part of a wester nations and technological development. Again nothing to do with race.
No one mentioned race at all, western equipment tended to be developed by western nations.
Yet the russian players or eatern Europeans have to play britain to use the best equivelant of some of their tech?
Thats a catch 22 and works both way.
So TLDR no and it’s only copy-paste when it’s icky Russian vehicles
It’s a problem when Canada isn’t fully represented in one tree but you’re totally fine with India not being so
And there’s definitely no prejudice involved, for sure…
India should simply have never been added. We already have south africa and India doesnt add a single thing to our tree. It just allows for easy Soviet C&Ps to bodge our tree so they can get out of doing bug fixes.
Mig-21 BISON is only stronger than the Tornado F3 because they refuse to fix the F3.
Strela and OSA are onyl stronger than the Stormer HVM because they refuse to fix the HVM
T-90 is weaker than the CR1s, but the CR1s could still be stronger.
Marut is apparently weaker than the Hunter F1
Jaguar IS I dont really care about and we still dont have the Jaguar GR3A yet
India should have gone to the soviet TT. Simple.
Why people want Gripen C, Rafale, Typhoon and Su-30 all in the same tree is beyond me, unelss they are too lazy to grind multiple TTs. Might as well throw a Signapore F-15, Canadian F-18 in there as well. Im sure we can find an F-16 somewhere too.
As I’ve stated a thousands time before. We have so many native British stuff never added because we got a SA or Indian equivalent instead is just frustrating. I didnt grind the British TT because I wanted an Su30. I grinded it because I wanted things like the Hawk, Vulcan, etc etc. Vehicles we dont even have yet.
Unless they are uniquely modified, I ain’t interested. Mostly Candair and Atlas products would be nice.
has it been changed?