RDF/LT vs. 2S38

[520BadGateway]

im not even sure if HSTVL supposed to have thermal at this point since the one on RDFLT was an attachment type of modification

[Saitama_420]

I mean I have 2S38, dont have HSTVL but when I test drive it it feels soo much better and responsive then 2S38
But then again I played only few mathces with 2S38 Im waiting for new anticheat to roll out so I can play Gorund otherwise Im not wasting my time getting cheated on in top tire

[TBomb69]

@jspene

You’ve literally listed every single possible thing that could be interpreted as a disadvantage and most aren’t even true or relevant, while attempting to dismiss or not mentioning any advantages. This is the definition of bad faith argument.

So list other advantages the RDF/LT has over the 2s38 then. Because by what i’ve seen the only thing is slightly faster acceleration and it is smaller.

[TBomb69]

@520BadGateway

im not even sure if HSTVL supposed to have thermal at this point since the one on RDFLT was an attachment type of modification

I don’t really know about the HSTV-L but the RDF/LT currently definitely should not have thermals, as the component that gave it thermals is not modeled right now.

Also with this quote below I was referring to how the issue of gun smoke can be fixed by aiming through the gunner’s sight, as opposed to third person.

@520BadGateway

This sounds like exactly the type of thing someone who didn’t know what they were talking about would say

[jspene]

@TBomb69

So list other advantages the RDF/LT has over the 2s38 then. Because by what i’ve seen the only thing is slightly faster acceleration and it is smaller.

-17 degrees of gun depression
-Lower overall turret profile compared to the gun breech
-Higher penetration
-Far better spalling
-Heavily angled armor leading to bounces
-Can’t get ammo racked in the turret

@TBomb69

Also with this quote below I was referring to how the issue of gun smoke can be fixed by aiming through the gunner’s sight, as opposed to third person.

So you’re going to constantly adjust the gunners sight setting in battle, or always deal with the parallax?

[Kievskiy_Minipig]

Whats point of making such conclusions if they are based only on test drive and numbers from vehicle card? Theory often differs from practice. So to make correct conclusion you have to check both vehicles in battle to see how they perform there, not against leo a1a1 in test drive.
I have 2s38 and hstvl which in fact is rdflt but only 26 rounds ammorack. And based on my experience in battles with both I can conclude hstvl and rdflt are simply better because of way better gun handling, ability to k.o. barrels with just one shot (not 2 or more because of “nice” servers), ability to k.o. tanks from front without having to snipe pixels, smaller size, crewless (with some enemy help) turret which doesnt fly high when you hit it (unlike 2s38 turret with that one round) and hp/weight ratio.

[W0lverine41]

So after playing with both the RDF and the BMD-4M I’ve come to a few conclusions about them. This could also be incorporating the 2S38 to be honest. The RDF comes up short in a lot of ways IMHO and yet it stays well above both Russian vehicles in BR. The RDF has less armor with less mobility than the premium BMD, has no smokes and a far worse thermal sight with no CIS. Yes I agree that the BMD might have a gun with less punch to it but it also has a faster ROF and the rounds will somehow find a way to penetrate a lot of armor from the front on some MBT’s for some reason. Having tried the 2S38 I’m convinced that the Russian 57mm has some REAL magic to it’s pen and spalling. It can be a bit spotty in it’s performance from match to match. With any of these vehicles, if anybody sneezes in your direction, you’re deleted. I can pen pretty much anything with the BMD’s and 2S38 rounds given enough time to put enough rounds into the target…FROM THE FRONT. Again, just MHO…