did you just said merkava mk3 armour is weak?
I did not mention the mk.3 and do not know much about it. And I was talking about side armor, unless the mk.3 has a crazy amount of it.
you dont want to have a grief about Lvkv9040c too while at that? better HE-VT, better armour, better depression, and 2 extra crews that serve no real purpose?
At least personally I don’t see as many of those, and yes if it is better than it probably deserves to go up. But I don’t even have an issue with the 2s38 staying at 10.3 or 0.3 above if it gets decompressed again, my issue is that the RDF/LT is 1.3 above, and because of several major issues (missing ammo, incorrect ammunition stats, missing appliqué armor, incorrect top speed) it is downright inferior to the HSTV-L and 2s38.
your counter point is “at least i dont see many of those”? oh boy, here we go again
i dont see it so that means it didnt exist mindset again
so what was your point on it being inferior to 2S38 again.
it is in higher BR, it has slower top speed despite having higher acceleration,…
want to hear what makes me think 2S38 is overhyped and over estimated?
gun depression -5 degree. turns out crewless turret is useless when your depression angel is just -5
silhouette. 2S38 is as big as some MBT but smaller than most modern IFV like Boxer and Namer. but unlike them they had gun depression angle to compensate for their large size 2S38 size made it more rigid and harder to play in map with high elevation (al-alamein, red desert, etc)
slow acceleration. heavier body made it more difficult to accelerate and despite all these weight it still floats like a tatter tots so what are all those extra weight for if you can easily get swayed around in the sea?
crew placement just like QN506, 2S38 has that weird crew placements but unlike QN 2S38 missing that plate of separator steel
it missing its IFF despite having it visually not a big hinder but it makes identifying in sim a bit more annoying
some source mentioned its side box being ERA this claim was unproven though having big box on its side that serve no purpose is weird
I did not disagree that if it is superior it should go up. I am saying that I do not see many and therefore do not have much experience fighting it. And my entire argument was in my original post. The RDF/LT is slower, has less ammunition, has a slower fire rate, has a worse IRST, has less elevation, has less armor, worse repair cost, lacks smoke grenades, ESS, only has gen 1 thermals, less zoom, in a side-on faces more heavily armed opponents makings it’s ammunition advantage meaningless, etc, etc.
Ready rack, crewed turret, no scouting, no drone.
5 crew with 2 that serve 0 purpose, spall liner, tracking radar. next
yeah but 2s38 turret worse than that. The round next to the breech is going to explode even from APFSDS.
That happens only rarely.
Lvkv has worse ammo
Yeah, because it’s a SPAA.
True but irrelevant
Yeah its relevant. SPAA is for killing planes, not tanks.
But we are just comparing combat capabilities. It doesn’t matter what class it’s in.
so then let’s compare the 2S38 with the Challenger Mk2.
Lvkv and 2s38 are way more similar and the Lvkv is just a radar variant of a light tank.
In my opinion Lvkv 9040C is the peak of the Swedish infantry fighting vehicles, the best from all just by the fact it can engage air targets with more ease.
I’m pretty sure the side boxes are to help with floatation, they’re empty so i’m assuming its to gain more buoyancy.