it would be nice if devs would ad the RB-04 radar missile to game, this is anti ship weapon is radar guided fire and forget missile. it would be cool if this would be added to game. it would be also nice if smaller nation would have good close air support weapon. because sometimes it is frustrating when Russia gets good cas gear like KH-38mt , even if it does not even exists. RB-04 missile is real and it would be fresh wind on CAS meta. what do you think? should RB-04 given to A32A, aj37 and ajs37?
warhead of this missile is 300kg HE, and it can be armed whit proximity or impact fuse.[img]
AFAIK radar guided missiles, like in the case with this one, are used purely against ships (there is a reason why they are called Air-to-Ship missiles). It can only be locked on vessels on the water landscape and highly doubt planes armed with these ordnance were ever capable of locking ground targets specificaly.
For instance, we already have this kind of weapon on Tornado IDS MFG (the AS.43) and it is completely useless as we have no 11.x ships in the game to match this aircraft with and it has very, very limited use in Air RB (let alone Ground RB) due to very small number of maps that include maritime targets.
Even if aircrafts can technically lock on the ground targets, the missile range and lock range would hammer hardly BR placement of aforementioned planes. But, as I said, I very much doubt radar suits on these aircraft could lock on the ground targets, so this weapon can be added even next update as it would be completely useless for next few years until we get Naval RBs with long-range cruise missiles on ships and respective missile SPAAs on them to make these ASs actually useful.
Well, we do now have three dedicated ASM’s in game, with three different guiding mechanisms, but all severely lacking in performance and authenticity. I’d really have hoped since the Kormoran that both quantity and quality of this weapon class would be improved significantly, and that more ASM’s would be added, and better.
Of course the RB-04 should be added, along with Harpoons, Exocet, Sea Eagle, …
What is the third guiding mechanism? I know AS.43 is ARH+IOG, the AGM-119A Penguin found on Norwegian F-5A(G) is (terminal) IR+IOG and the third one is…?
if i am right PS-42 TA radar can lock an area on map because it is primaly an mapping and navigation radar, so if this missile gets added to game. it should stay in br 9 because it is 1950s plane and 1950s missile, and also it would be nice if CAS meta would get fresh winds. Let the RB-04 be wind of change
I found more info about the radar system from this aircraft’s manual PDF i found from Wikipedia articles sources. So this plane has PS 42-TA (search radar), PS42-TT ( air tracking radar),
PN-50 / A ( navigation and RB-04 missile control radar) and PN-50 ( altitude radar).
If I understand the concept, the missile itself is supposed to be assigned to a specific point on the surface (GNSS-like targeting) while radar keeps highlighting the spot (laser-like lock fixation)? Maybe it will be doable, however these planes (A32/AJ(S)37) will definitely be moved up as this way we get a laser-like pod in form of a radar with possibility to switch target thanks to the pre-designation of targets via map (especially if targets are scouted).
Also, the 300 kg warhead is, from what I’ve read, SAP with pre-fragemnted components, so its explosive filler mass will be lower than 300 kg. Maybe it is comparable to M117 750lb bomb, but, depedning on the accuracy of designated point via radar, it won’t be enough to be effective.
Actually I’m wrong, it will be pretty much just GNSS kind of munition as missile would lead it to the point itself via ARH seeker, so radar is there just for pre-lock and spot identification.
Either way, this thing would be pretty much Grom-1 but with (much) shorter range, so even if it is added, the planes would probably not benefit too much in A2G aspect.
Yeah, but I still wonder how it can target ground targets. I don’t really get it as whether it is a laser-like guidance style with necessity of having radar on or it can be fired wherever the radar placed the point and missile guides itself like any other munition with GNSS guidance.
I mean… depends. This post has a statement that Soviets get OP CAS option, therefore, Swedes can get one via ASMs that have capabilities of being used against ground targets.
The nature of talks about ASMs’ capabilities being regarded primarily from ground attack aspect is understandable as most of the people (and I’d say I am part of these people) don’t care about ASM usage in naval specificaly.
It is even more evident when countries cannot offer dedicated counterparts of weapon systems present in others (e.g. Japan mains want ASM-2s to be added alongside F-2 for A2G capability as Japanese themselves have no dedicated guided A2G ordnance like Soviets/Americans/British/French have: AGM-65s / Kh-29Ts / AS-30 / Brimstone etc.).
It is pretty much the case with Swedes as well: its either AGM-65As or AGM-65Gs which are not competetive in current economy due to their relatively low quantity (2-4 per airframe) and quality (Kh-29Ts kind of outperform AGM-65s while being in same number on certain airframes).
Unfortunately only ASB has naval targets so for a majority of the community A2N weapons would serve no purpose. If they can double as A2G weapons in GRB they would hold value. Which is probably why so many ASMs haven’t been added yet and why the ones we have are kinda useless Vs naval targets
