RAH-66 Comanche missing avionics

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from: https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/book/10.2514/4.106255

Probably it won’t lead to anything, but I’ll leave it here.

Now for the RWR systems…

Comanche’s Suite of Integrated Radio Frequency Countermeasures (SIRFC) comes from ITT Avionics in Clifton, N.J. The SIRFC (ALQ-211[V]3) is a stand-alone radar-warning receiver designed to provide radar warning, situational awareness, and electronic countermeasures to help the Comanche detect, evade, and defeat modern and emerging air defense threats.

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The Comanche program had a long development period, so the subsystems also had changes accordingly (e.g., the addition of the Longbow radar).

AFAIK The AN/APR39(v)1 was the initial specification, and it seems that the seemingly more advanced ALQ-211(v)3 was planned later. Sadly, however, the ALQ-211(v)3 was developed for the Comanche, so it disappeared along with the Comanche when it was canceled. So what the specifications of this were can only be guessed at through other versions.

Going back to 1993, we were visited by a representative from OSD who ran all the government R&D facilities. With him were all the directors of the labs. Their task was to coordinate their activities to support the technology needs of the program. We used optimistic weight assumptions based on their projections. As Army funding was reduced, the lab support disappeared, along with our optimistic weight projections. As for growing Army requirements, there were a total of 85+ user operational requirements document (ORD) changes from 1991 to 2001. These included:

Radar warning receiver (RWR) • Radar frequency interferometer (RFI) • Armor • High frequency (HF) radio • Radar cross section (RCS) combat kits • Link 16 • SATCOM • SADA • Fifth-percentile female • Integrated mission support system (IMSS) • Air bags • Image-intensified charge-coupled device TV camera (I2 on nose) • Internal weapons bay fuel tanks • Two-axis seats for the fifth-percentile female • Chemical detectors • Two-station external fuel and armament management system (EFAMS) • Increased gun rounds • Growth T800 engines

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Reports are up for the following.

[DEV] RAH-66 Comanche missing AN/ALQ-136 (V5)Radar Jammer

[DEV] RAH-66 Comanche missing AN/ALQ-144(V3) Infrared Jammer

[DEV] RAH-66 Comanche missing M-130 Counter Measure Dispenser

Also just to get this noticed a bit:
[DEV] RAH-66 Comanche pilot and gunner places reversed

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Doing god’s work!

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New reports are up.

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Is this the HSTV-L of the sky? Practically being a completely different vehicle in-game than real life, the only thing being the same is the visual model…

any reports on the missing air to air loadouts?

Report for the ability to stow the gun
[DEV] RAH-66 Comanche missing ability to stow it’s turret

Do you think any of these systems will be implemented for the Comanche? I really hope so. I’d love to be able to learn and effectively use every system the Comanche has to offer. I’d like to be as potent as possible. Ever since I saw the Comanche in the Incredible Hulk I was hooked to it. I really hope Gaijin actually understands that there has never been anything like the Comanche and what it offers in capability.

Some will be, probably not all, but at least with the reports lodged early I’ve done my bit.

What does doing all that even do? I’ve never taken Gaijin as much of a listener to their players about changing vehicles that aren’t ones they want to artificially make broken.

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So the Comanche got the APR-39 and LWR in the last patch, and this little line at the bottom of it’s sensors page.

Hopefully this is indicative of it getting it’s countermeasures given, well, CM programs are useless without CMs.

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You think IRCM also? And it’s 130 countermeasures right?

It won’t get 130 countermeasures, documents just say it has M-130 dispensers it doesn’t give a definitive number so reasonably it would either be 1 or 2 dispensers. Each M-130 dispenser has 30 total countermeasures. The amount of chaff and flare is up to the crew since it is configurable. So really it should end up with either 30 or 60 CM’s.

Not an effective ircm tho, just that disco ball thing that doesn’t do anything to irccm missiles that every fighter and sam would be using at this br

It’s the same IR Jammer that the MH-60L DAP and AH-64’s has which from what I’ve is passable. By far not the best but also can come in handy a few times.

It surely isn’t Ka-50 IRCM, but I’m hoping it even gets it. Is it staying at 10.3? (I don’t remember what the ground or other mode Br it is).

Right then this is just ridiculous now
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Clearly they just don’t care about modelling this thing correctly.

Just watch them come back do the same with the M-130 report now.

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With the ability of the RWR (ALR-39A(V)1) to identify emitters, it could be set up to (Active, Covert, Standby, Off) automatically to activate only in response to a relevant IR threat being detected, so the power could be provided activating the Noise source (Arc Lamp) should it be needed by the pilot.

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Also the ALQ-144(V)3 is literally installed on the AH-64A. So it does exist on a real vehicle, and as an aside, the mention of both high and low frequency modulation means it is likely able to inject the appropriate signals to defeat some types of IRCCM.

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“This was not implemented on a real vehicle”

Oh that is glorious BS and they know it.

Should we dig back out the Yak-141 and it’s entire sensor suite and weapons which were never implemented onto a real vehicle?

Also, don’t the SU-57 and F-35 have DIRCM? If IRCM contradicts the concept of stealth aircraft then why does the two most flaunted stealth aircraft in current existence have IRCM built into them?

Like, this is really well known.

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@Gunjob

Any insight?

oh, also neat patent explaining how the ALQ-144 works.