From efficiency aspect, even Alphajet is better than these jets with 2 LGB. For me, it’s hard to judge.
Just asking why does it have to fight the SPAAs? It has KH25MLs which have a range of 10km, which is impossible for all SPAA at 10.0-11.0 to reach, whilst the Q5L in an up tier has to fight against potential ROLAND and PANTSIRs. The same logic does not even apply for the A10s. The Q5Ls only have 8 250kg bombs, which does not fully destroy a base. I have to dogfight with 23 mm guns at 9.7, whilst the SU25 gets to use R60s at stock. Also just mentioning, how is it that the two planes have such different payload if they are based off the same plane where the Q5L is only able to carry 2 tonnes of ammunition and the Q5甲 can carry 5 tonnes?
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He made a mistake. The H-bomb is not 5 ton but about 1 ton.
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I think its 5 ton TNT equivalent not 5 ton in mass
It is a hydrogen bomb. Only 5 ton TNT equivalent is somewhat hilarious.
Isn’t this a tactical nuke/hydrogen bomb? If it is then 5 ton TNT equivalent is normal.
it has no pods, need to guide the missile with hud, using kh-25ml or kh-29l will make it a steady target for any spaa. it’s main job is throwing s-25.
so, in br change, it go 9.3 in air rb
Not sure about the design detail, but the nuke carrier is a very specially made jet, it’s only job is carry the nuke, so I think they can’t be compared.
and the maximum weight, I think gaijin fabricate it, it should be able to carry more, but sadly, still no evidence.
edit: someone explained
this is a problem, but I think there will be a decompression soon, and move ground top to 12.0, maybe it would be better that time. And 10.7 grb now, usually plays with around 10.0, seldom go 11.7.
A-10a late has the best CAS loadout this br. AGM-65D can lock moving target at 12km. but it has no pod, agm-65d’s resolution and scale are awful, so it can fire about 5-6km away, and it doesn’t need to keep tracking and guiding. It’s terrible speed suggests that you should not get close to spaa’s range.
some source say it’s 100000kg, some say 8000, not sure which is true. and some article say it’s not hydrogen bomb, it’s modified from a hydrogen trigger, meaning it’s a small atom bomb
The Q5 series after Q5III/C are all modified based on Q5III/C, Q5III can install domestically produced AAMs, while the exported version of A5C is compatible with AAMs from other countries, so Q5L should also be able to produce AAMs
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Add pl-5b or pl-7 for it will make it something like Pakistan Q-5C, not very interesting, but a good addition for tt. 3 Q-5 which are almost same in ARB is too boring
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At least PL5B or PL7 can give Q5L the ability to counterattack (PL7=Chinese Magic 1)
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Both PL-5 and PL-7 would be too strong for its future ARB br. Since its going to 9.3 arb BR, PL-2 should be a better option for it.
I would prefer Q5L to obtain PL5B and PL7, and then move all BR as a whole to 10.7
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It is 90000 tonnes tnt equivalence, the smallest human atomic bomb of only 100 tonnes tnt equivalence is 500lb, the Hydrogen bomb must include an atomic bomb, and the hydrogen bomb with a 90000 tonne equivalence would be much more than 1 tonne. It is at least 2.5 tonnes and that is without the safety mechanism which is pretty heavy as well. Reminder this is not modern nuclear war heads, this is a last century very early H bomb.
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No. Chinese nomenclature was confusing back then. 甲 was different to -I and also different to -A.
甲 was the nuclear strike variant, 乙 was the AShM variant, and Roman numerals were used to denote regular upgrades/variants until English alphabet took over decades later. Some variants were re-designated from Roman to English, others didn’t. You can read more about variants in the two Chinese books linked above.
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In other news, the Q-5L will finally receive countermeasures. No AAM though.
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They should have at least given PL-2s
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In short, no. But it almost happened.
强-5乙 was developed for the PLANAF specifically to carry torpedoes, hence the nose with a better visibility and houses a surface search radar. Five prototypes were made and at least one was photographed flying with a 5-digit serial, which only became a thing in the 1970s. The plane was first pitched in 1966 and test flown since 1971 but it only received the Type Designation in 1980 due to the slow progress of its Type 317 radar, a copy of the R-14A recovered from a crashed F-105D in Vietnam.
There were plans in 1978 to retrofit 强-5乙 with YJ-8 (鹰击-8) AShM but the heavier missile meant the plane needs to shave weight elsewhere. A minaturized Type 317 radar, known as 317甲, was then developed to reduce weight. Due to the slow progress on the radar, the AShM variant was cancelled in the late 70s and the missile went on to serve with the Type 024III missile boat.
The PLAN restarted the Q-5 AShM variant in the mid-80s after the success of YJ-8 AShM’s trials on missile boats, so they decided to have another go at it. This time it’ll carry the revised YJ-81 AShM and be directed with the JL-7 radar from J-7III. Development only went as far as flying a regular Q-5 with a mockup missile to test its handling characteristics, and the project was shelved for good because JH-7 can carry four YJ-81s, is faster, and has a longer range.
So basically there were three 强-5乙 models:
- 1971: Type 317 radar, 2x RAT-52 (鱼-2) torpedoes. 5 Prototypes built.
- 1978: Type 317甲 radar, 2x YJ-8 AShM. Aerial missile launch tests conducted. Cancelled due to the lack of progress in radar development.
- 1980s: JL-7 radar, 2x YJ-81 AShM. Cancelled before anything were built.
Source: 东风乍起-中国强-5强击机传纪 Page 51-52
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Q-5L at least deserves a PL-5 given how new it is. Ideally PL-7. Giving it PL-2 is like giving the A-10 AIM-9B.
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We all know gaijin. They will say giving it PL-5B/C will make it 11.0
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Q5L should get the TL-10 at least, it was tested earlier before, which is similar to the AGM65, but smaller.
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