Proposal to fix the Underpreformance of the M1 Abrams series

I still dont see the justification for it being “bad”. You have just supported my entire argument for why the Abrams does poorly when played by the US. They are playing it wrong, they are charging into situations expecting to be immune to damage and then getting killed.

Few tanks at top tier can survive more than 1 hit, so this is not unique to the Abrams

They are not under performing but i would still like gaijin to fix the turret ring and place the hydraulic pump at right place

Any hit disables turret and/or gun. Even low caliber shots to the front drive sprocket at angle are a kill. The neck is huge and unrealistically fragile. The lfp is huge and a kill. Most HE shots to roof attachments are a kill. Any penetrating shots has much more spall than any other mbt I play…and I play every single nation at top tier! It is generally an infuriating vehicle to play and when I get fed up with it I jump to bvm, t80’s, vt4, or any of the german/swiss top tier tanks for actual fun.

I want whatever it is you are smoking. You only play brit and low tier usa…u don’t know.

How about the fact Abrams has about 5 different back-up ways to fire the main gun for redundancy. That’s not integrated in game.

That’s also true for the leopards now. God i hope all other tanks soon get there modules and turret basket

1 Like

I did not know about that

that is wild

1 Like

Once again, you have yet to give me an explanation too:

Thats was up to gaijin. What can he do about it or give you any reason?

Thats kind of my point though, If people are trying to justify why the Abrams are bad, they must first justify why they are even at their current BRs

I am sure they are just trying to spread the br’s out. It’s just as easy to kill the sepv2 (big and slow) as it is the m1a1 or hc.The armor hasn’t been upgraded on any of them since…m1a1 has same armor as all the rest I think. They gete heavier but the gin doesn’t think armor has been upgraded. The v2 getting lws has been a good addition. From the m1a2 down the thermals are butt! The dang russian 10.3 turms has better thermals!

sorry I should have said the vt4al…

Then why is the Leopard 2A6, Leopard 2 PSO and Leoaprd 2A7 the same BR then?

Or I think the Leclercs.

That all vary far more significantly in performance than the various M1A1/M1A2s do and yet are all at 12.7

This has not prevented other 12.7 MBTs from being at 12.7 despite having Gen 1 thermals

I only have the 12.3 one and find it pretty dogwater, probably the worst 12.3 I’ve ever played and don’t even know why it’s there. It’s a POS

it’s squishy…the a1 has aps and good thermal…helps a lot imo.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/8qfiAz8F7njo
issue passed,but now¯_(ツ)_/¯

The ZTZ99A and WZ1001 are literally better everywhere, they have more engine power, twice the reverse top speed, and better gunner sight zoom. After playing them for a while I don’t see they are equal, closest is .3 apart and if I were to call the shot? it’s 11.7 at best as its actually worse than the Al Khalid when it comes to gun depression. Needless to say Oplot just totally outclassing it for me like they are not even close


Now its serves best as a backup only after WZ1001, ZTZ99A and Oplot have been destroyed. The spall liner of VT4 is in a useless position as nobody shoots there

…the OPLOT far underperforms irl…typical.

That’s true for all tanks