Giving the F-14D AMRAAMs is overcomplicating the issue, given it’s letting Gaijin get away with the AIM-54’s current state and lack of the AIM-54C+. It’s a bandaid fix for a problem that should not exist, and wishful thinking for an aircraft that doesn’t need those missiles.
I don’t believe the IRIAF should keep the R-27s either, they should be replaced with the R-73s that were actually successfully tested by the Iranian air force.
I’m not talking about giving them all AMRAAM’s. The 14A-65, which historically had them, if the other guy was right that NF-14D’s were running AMRAAM’s - then that would again be correct, the only one that would be ‘a-historical’ would be the Tomcat with the software upgrade - but that was literally a planned thing they were gonna do, but decided to put the money in to LANTIRN with everything that was going on. Something they fully had the intent on doing, like with the 15C GE - is a far cry from the a-historical mess that is Russian wonder weapons. Granted - I’m an arcade player so ‘reality’ is stretched a bit anyway, but given it is a game, treating ‘reality’ like absolute dogma is something that will, and in the past has, done more harm than good.
Also - the F-14D and F-14D(R) in what I propose, along with the F-14A+, are all running historical loadouts, and would have appropriate BR’s for said loadouts, the only ones that would deviate in the D category would be the NF-41D, and the proposed upgrade to carry AMRAAM’s - at which point yes, AMRAAM’s would raise those two planes BR’s, but I’d have to question why outside of stock grind maybe on the upgraded D (since NF-41D as a premium wouldn’t have that issue) you would be running that setup on those planes in the first place because that would be willingly choosing to nerf yourself? NF’s were navy testing and the upgrade was literally so it could take the newer AMRAAM over the AIM-54, if you want to run F-14D’s in historical configuration - then run the F-14D and D(R) which top out with the best version of the historical armaments. Trust me - I’m the guy right now vocal as hell that in Arcade the F-14’s need to move down in BR because they are getting wiped by all the ever increasing number of 13.3 and lower ARH spammers using AMRAAM’s, R-77’s, and other similar missiles because the AIM-54 can’t compete with them, and having AIM9’s and 7’s 1-2 stages lower than anything else at the BR is BS.
That’s fair, then. I’m just a little paranoid given I’ve seen so many people clamoring for the F-14D to not have a TT equivalent, and instead have the TT version be given AMRAAMs.
I suppose I wouldn’t oppose an additional higher TT/squadron equivalent with AMRAAMs, doubly so if it’s the F-14A-65-GR.
Why are you making the best concievable Tomcat a gimped premium (reskin of F-14B)?
Why not make this a squadron specific plane like the JA 37Di? Leave the last and best to the tree? I urge you to reconsider this.
Your asking us to sibmit evidence that the sky is blue. Gaijin designs a digital aircraft but doesnt know its actual armaments? Do they not have google at gaijin?
Which is fair - If I were a dev for this game, for me - it would break out like this.
F14A-65: Armed with older 9’s and 7’s, and AIM-120A’s as an event vehicle (maybe ‘Dreams Come True’ so that it too can be a premium and as it is a one off)
F-14A+/Late: Premium vehicle or Squadron vehicle on the level of the F-14A (same weapons, just the different engine and all)
F-14D: Tech Tree vehicle, better version of the AIM-54C, still likely on the same BR as the F-14B.
F-14D(R): Squadron vehicle, same as the F-14D, other than maybe having the other version of the AIM-54C upgrades (likely the lesser version), and any other limitations the rebuilds may have had.
NF-14D: The current pre-order premium, but with AIM-120B AMRAAM’s.
F-14D (Software upgrade): Tech tree variant with 9m, 7P, and 120C-5, the pinnacle of what the Tomcat would have been had it gotten the upgrade without outside interference in the F-14 at all.
So - all the primary versions of the F-14, other than the A+ when they changed to the GE engines, are in the tech tree - plus the ‘what if’ version where it gets the AMRAAM software patch, The D(R) - being A/B frames rebuilt to D standards, becomes a squadron vehicle. The 14A-65 becomes an event vehicle because it’s a one off with AMRAAM’s, the NF-41D becomes the premium with AMRAAM’s that it might have had (again I can’t confirm that, don’t have that info personally), and the A+ becomes either a premium of lower BR (excellent for helping new players who go ‘oo shiny and skips tech tree’ actually learn to use ARH missiles) or a squadron vehicle.
This isn’t some scenario where we can only have a Tomcat with AMRAAM or without, premium only or tech tree only, we can literally have both in tech tree and premium/squadron/event forms, with AMRAAM’s and without. Without going in to crazy fantasy land, all of them did happen or were actually funded then plan changed - but still even had a proof of concept to go off of. If I had money to bet - I’d wager there’s at least someone out there, likely in Arcade battles where we can use as many planes as we have crews plus backups, that there is someone out there who would go ‘yes, I want to run 8x Tomcats (9 if they have the Iranian one) in my lineup’.
Makes a lot more sense, I wish I had enough faith in Gaijin for this outcome to seem likely…
So, no 9m, no 7P, no 54C+. Lol
Essentially a re-skinned premium F14B with better radar and better engines. What a joke Gaijin. Absolutely wonderul job 👏
No better engines the guys on the live stream where just wrong
Same - but, that’s why I also mentioned the sales possibilities improving with changes to this planes armament and name, as well as the possibilities for bolstering sales off copy/paste vehicles of it that could generate possibly smaller amounts of overall income but still better on profit margins than full new vehicle, as well as alternatives of others that would also copy off existing work they’ve done for even higher profits due to low cost of production of them since they are based on existing models.
Because they are a business, and sometimes, the best way to help us, is to point out the way they can possibly make more money off us while getting what we want.
9M！7P！54C！
The su 30SM 2 has the best cas weapon with the hypothetical kh38MT
It is the only thrust vectoring aircraft family we have in game
It carries one of the best AAM with the R 77 1
It has an insane Radar that can track tragets while notching rather well
And it gets long range IR seeking AAM aswell
This is not gold enough for you ?
He is just rage farming at this point.
These loadouts must change, for both F-14D and F-14B. AIM-9M for F-14B is long overdue and now with F-14D around the corner we really do need some proper refinement. AIM-54C+ and AIM-7P come to mind as just turning the radar all-aspect doesnt cut it for 13.0.
I will not buy it unless 9ms added. Even 13.3 with 9m is ok imo.
nice poll, but the thing is : gaijin already decided.
Yep. Saw that 20 mins ago.
thats wroughly when i sent that message
20 minutes ago
It will probably be reverted because another duplicate bug report is denied. They want to keep it at the same BR as the F-14B.