Been playing the game since late 2017. Been watching bad decision after bad decision be made for the entire goal of financial gain. Now I understand this is a video game, they have fiscal goals to meet, it makes sense. I’m not here to complain about Gaijin entertainment wanting to make money, it’s more about how they make money. This plane is going to be bad, it does not fit the meta at all. It will play identically to the current F-14B, mark my words. It has the exact same capability from a combat perspective: 1:1 flight performance, 1:1 weapons and countermeasures… but oh a better radar? big whoop. It’s not like they ever employed HMD on these things, the radar is just stronger and that’s LITERALLY IT. I almost considered buying it (or at least whenever it drops to 50% off) and after reading that it lacks AIM-9M and AIM-7P? Lol… I’ve spent more money on this game than I’d like to share and I can promise you that I will never own this premium. I kid you not (check my WT profile if you don’t believe me) I own every single US air premium in game, I’m a WT US main whale with countless other prems in other nations. I cannot bring myself to buy this on 2 grounds: #1 It’s going to genuinely suck SO BAD, without a moments rest of fun apart from the occasional down-tier. #2 paywall pre-order blocking the Evaluators skin… likely the most anticipated skin option for an F-14 model in WarThunder’s history and they paywalled it… That reason alone is shallow enough that I cannot bring myself to spend a single penny on this shameless premium cashgrab slop. Thank you, rant over :)
hope the pre order is acting like a early version. with a f-14d for tt to have the more advanced missiles. like 9m and aim-54c+
kinda like how they treat other early and late versions of the jets.
Maybe a F-14D(R)
You dont remember the iraf have R-27ER the best fox 1 missile btw
We still waiting for thats Aim-54+, and aim9m
They dont, they have the R27R which arent bad but the radar lets it down still and theyre nowhere near the ER in performance
yeah that could be held back for the TT Version as i just said. its possible like with the aim-120 on f-18c. had the early version without them for the premium, but the late TT version uses them.
That is kinda what the community wants rn.
Other people want the F 14 to carry AIM 120.
afaik the only F 14 that can carry and fire AIM 120 is a modified F 14A
I wonder how gaijin is going to respond to this if at all.
This could go anywhere from no answer to a response like with the free abrahams outcry, where we got one for free when purchasing a certain amout of GE+ a tt version+ one that can carry AIM 120 in some way or from.
maybe the f-14a with aim-120s can be squadron?
that would be wild but also appropriate sadly.
Russia has 2 Squadron Planes at this rank so it would not be unthinkable.
yeah us desperatly need a high rank squadron jet. only two it got are a-4 and f-117…
aim120 on f14A-65-gr was just prove that f14 can carry aim120 and can launch them it was proof of planned integration for the future F-14Ds.
They should get one some day
But they do not “need” any imo
Other nations have way less aircraft than the US
So squadron planes are usually something smaller tech trees should revieve.
But since squadron verhicle are no longe a rare thing for updates, one top tier plane for the US air tree wouldn’t hurt at all
planned but never implemented. that is the problem here…
It just needs it proper loadout of AIM-9Ms AIM-7P and AIM-54C+ (it can use the 7Ps with data link that was the while point of its datalink upgraded)
Actually it was implemented until funding cuts took the apg71 capability to use aim120 away then later CAs was chosen over aim120 just didn’t use them in service
Ngl I would prefer an AIM 54C+ equiped variant for the TT.
Would fit way better into the lineage of F14 there with every F 14 giving you a better version of the same AAM
KKH38MTs were planned but never built yet are in the game with 0 actual proof that the MT variant exists outside of a wooden mockup.
It was planned for the F-14D to get the need software upgrade to operate AIM-120’s, as the AIM-54 they could not take all 6 and return to the carrier, while with the AMRAAM they could take as many as they could AIM-7’s and come back. However because there were only 55 of them, and certain people were trying to kill the F-14’s production entirely, the money that was set aside for that upgrade was transferred over to increase what they had for the LANTIRN upgrade.
And even within the US tech tree, adding such a plane has precedent. The F-15C ‘Golden Eagle’ was a plan (not sure they even made it to funding it) to upgrade the existing fleet of single seat F-15C’s to the F-15EX standard, meaning it should have 16 AMRAAM’s instead of the 12 it has and the I wanna say 10 before they were compelled to increase it but that parts beside the point. The military decided it wasn’t worth it to upgrade the older airframes, and so stuck with the still in production 2 seaters so only the 15EX will be a thing. So an ‘F-14D (CSU)’ - CSU being ‘Computer Software Upgrade’ as I don’t know that they had some name for the AMRAAM software package, sporting at least 6x AMRAAM’s is something that should more than be on the table, it should have been getting released with this - and then people maybe wouldn’t be going as scorched earth. As to which version of the AIM-9 and 7 it gets, I suppose that comes down to what BR it would be, which is kinda complicated because 6x AMRAAM’s isn’t exactly competitive above 13.3, least in terms of Arcade BR, F-16’s pretty routinely prove that point, and the Tomcat isn’t the most agile bird. I know more and more we have 13.0 planes with 2-6 more modern ARH missiles, albeit I don’t know that any of them can launch 6 at a time (again, Arcade BR’s). But even at 13.3 they’d at least have to give it access to the 9M.
Also, to tie to what’s posted right after - if they wanted to give us an F-14 squadron vehicle, they should give us the 'F-14A (Late) to go with the Early at 12.3 in Arcade (whatever in RB/SB) or really move both down to at least 12.0 in arcade cause they are getting stomped on. The F-14B in game is actually the F-14B (Upgrade), which is why it’s not really that different from the 14D, and the F-14A Early is the ‘Top Gun’ F-14A with the TF-30 engines. So, technically missing from the game that could be the F-14A Late is the F-14A+ from before they started calling it the F-14B, when it just had the TF-30’s replaced by the GE engine and a new RWR as the squadron vehicle. Alternatively, while it would be a non-ARH plane, in terms of a higher BR squadron vehicle for the US a missionized B model of the F/A-18 could be an option, though at what BR exactly I couldn’t tell you, if they went super early (like just entering service) where they’d have the AIM-7F maybe 11.7, otherwise a 2 seater version of the 12.3 aircraft.