When the German tree originally came out in CBT the cruiser Emden then followed by the Königsberg class & later Leipzig class had the prefix KMS, it only when the Nürnberg had the dev blog did people call out the prefix & they were dropped across the TT.
Another prefix is IJN & to lesser extent JDS, IJN is not a prefix & has been mentioned for years yet unlike the germans it has never been removed with the only exception to this are the torpedo boat Chidori & the kaibōkan Shōnan which both don’t have the prefix strangely, so they devs could definitely remove the ahistorical prefix.
Now JDS is real but it’s only applied to destroyers like Ayanami, Yūgure, Murasame, Harukaze byt not the smaller destroyer escorts. (rather strange how it’s all backwards)
Daft thing is there’s also a classification error between the two ships as by the Germans the Scharnhorst class were battleships (something the devs have never changed) & from some reading the Project 69 were intended as heavy cruisers.
Edit, Actually this is wrong for I’ve been mislead by information, that usually a cannon over 6.5" makes a ship a heavy cruiser yet since the USSR didn’t sign that treaty the Project 26 are classed a light cruisers which is reflected in game meanwhile the Project 69 is a battlecruiser still, now if only the mobile version of this poxy site allowed strikethrought text as this is the worst site I’ve used, worse than the old forum for it’s such a bloody let down.
Welp that’s what happens when the first thing you do waking up is check the news & type incorrect crap in effort to make a comparison.
Hmm, I honestly might consider purchasing these as lineup filler & the price is ehh… Well it’s expected afterall from viewing other modes premium tanks & aircraft (80 bucks is around $125.00 here (AUD)), but they better have insane SL/RP modifiers for the cost like triple the modifiers seen on the current most sold destroyer types in game.
Although it might be time to increase the added premium time & golden eagles while remaining at the same price, as 30 days should maybe be 60 days & GE maybe 6000 GE (heh like the CBT destroyers although those were 2000 GE with an added bonus 5000 GE for the time was a bargain for $75.95).
Still the idea of selling the current most powerful armour scheme vessel in game is comical (Scharnhorst class Battleship), like those that now how to use it will be devastating as is the Scharnhorst is now. While the Gneisenau is a beautiful ship, I would wish they would go back an add the Scharnhorst class Armoured Cruisers Scharnhorst & Gneisenau (maybe even a Maximilian von Spee decal?).
Meanwhile the Project 69I Sevastopol will probably have the same weaknesses as the current Kronshtadt which floods & burns easily if the forward magazines go up.
Hmm now comes a big thing, hopefully the battke rating are finally increased for these ships definitely cannot be at 7.0 still with the likely logic of the tree expansion up to at least 8.7 BR.
With seperate aviation BR’s a thing now, it should be doable and tbh some jet aircraft can be usable including some jet bombers as afterall HAA & LAA batteries are insane in game especially if a player controls them.
None of the naval treaties use the term Heavy Cruiser" or “Light Cruiser” at all - so whether anyone signed a treaty or not is irrelevant to using the terms.
The Washington Treaty defined a capital ship as anything over 10,000 tons or with guns larger than 8" (203mm).
The London treaty set different limits for ships with guns over 6.1" (155mmm) and 6.1" and smaller - but never called them heavy or light cruisers - that became unofficial parlance afterwards, and eventually adopted as the norm.
Welp, I’ve clearly read/watch something wrong, I backtrack my claim, but the prefixes are still an issue.
The 6.5" part me clearly screwing up the London naval treaty withits 6.1" armament.
On the requirements to understand better since what I remember is incorrect, what wiuld be a good starting point website, book or video watch on this subject?
I’ve been told the community managers are always collecting feedback to send to the developers. Despite every significant feedback every single 60, 70, and $80 premium pack devblog being filled with comments saying Gaijin is charging too much, the price never changes . So…what do we think is happening? Devs don’t care or community managers aren’t doing what they said they are? I guess it could be both?
Like we don’t even get a post explaining anything either. No “we have heard your feedback and wanted to take a moment to explain why the price has remained or here’s what we intend to do with it.” If you aren’t going to drop the price, then at least drop the “two updates and older” aspect of major sales.
Revert the awful arcade changes, and I’ll start playing naval and spending money again. Until then, good luck selling things to what’s left of the player base whose trust and good will you have squandered.
You don’t matter enough - queues in NAB are shorter now, more ppl in each team (fewer bots), which likely there’s more ppl playing NAB now than before changes.
So all the protestations of ppl like yo about leaving and never coming back are completely irrelevant - the changes worked for Gaijin’s purposes.
I play quite a lot of naval, up to max BR, but I won’t be getting these, at least not for 80€…
I have pretty much nothing left to research.
These 380mm guns aren’t that much better than 283mm guns, but there are less guns, with slower reload, which directly translates to diminished income. I wonder what multipliers these ships will get and if it could beat Prinz Eugen on rewards…
I know you have limited capacity for understanding this, but I’m going to say it again jsut in case it gets through - there are more people than just Kweedo who have no problem with the naval changes.
As I say in the article, absolute numbers can’t be used for comparison due to the effects of annualized trends. Fewer people play the game on May than Feb, it would actually be an unfair comparison that would make NAB numbers look even worse.
The undeniable fact is that NAB player numbers dropped in the months since the March update relative to NRB and all other modes. If the aim was to attract new players to NAB with simpler mechanics, it has objectively failed. Statsharks’s apparent full access to core data doesn’t allow us to lie to ourselves about this now.
(In fact, it’s even worse though. The same data shows the players who stuck around in NAB are more strongly oriented toward top-tier play. The players who have more invested. All the erosion has come at the lower tiers, the BRs for people who are on average newer to naval.)
People complaining about the price but the thing is, it will sell, it will sell a LOT!
Scharnhorst has been an absolute menace for years and by far the strongest ship in the game. Gne has 15" guns that resolve scharnhorst only weakness though she has at fastest 50-60 seconds reload.
She will sell like hotcakes and top tier will be a plague of Gne for a while and that will just embolden Gaijin further.
Only way a change will ever occur is if no one and I mean no one, buys Gne
