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Yeah, they need something that can actually go hull-down with a decent turret armor.
Ukraine can’t be independent tree, the only way to at it is merge into USSR tree
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Guys i don’t like the direction this thread goes :)
Please keep it on topic
I don’t see this ever happening for two reasons.
One being the elephant in the room and the second being that it is mostly just copy and pastes and would make for a poor tree.
CR2 has the second worst armour in game
To touch on the copy and paste a bit more, one of the biggest issues for an independent Ukrainian tech tree is that most Ukrainian tank plants were captured by Germany in 1940, so they weren’t able to make anything. By the time the plants were back up and running, they were making T-34-85s and T44As. I tried to make it so I only added vehicles made in Ukrainian plants for the Soviet times, but if I did that it would jump from KV-2s and T-34 1940s to T-34-85s, then jump again to T54s and T44s. So it’s either have 2 rank 2 vehicles and 1 rank 3 vehicle, or be the exact same as the USSR tree for 4 ranks
As I said before I do support Ukraine in a kind of partial Sub tech tree, like few vehicles and not a full line top to bottom. Would be a nice kickstart as some premium or battlepass vehicle.
The amount of existing vehicles in-game Ukraine has to give is not worth it. As separated tech tree also wouldn’t but for people who support Ukraine in the current scenario or people who’s interested in very few vehicles, generally would be just another USSR tech tree, wouldn’t worth the time to grind.
From what I can see the only place Ukraine could fit considering the existing tech trees is USSR, and not as a full top to bottom line as mentioned earlier.
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Ukraine would probably fit much better in an Eastern European tech tree, like mentioned before, because, well, you know. They do have some vehicles that they made themselves that would really help to make up a tech tree like that, such as the Object 478 BEM-1, as an example.
Yes would, I support some kind of European tech tree with a bunch of countries in, but if it’s just another tech tree with few vehicles to add and the rest is Leopards and T-72s I’m jumping out,
People need to start to change their mind and reject those kind of addition to the game, If we get a survey for future addition of those tech trees I’m surely voting against.
The game currently gets around 100 GB with everything downloaded of storage, and I’m sure that some of those Ctrl + D vehicles has some fault of such storage space consumption.
Hopefully we get a tech tree made entirely of unique vehicles instead of another wave of Leopards 2s like the Dutch are being added to the game on the ground section.
Eastern European tree concept is destructive and hurts nations that actually deserve their own trees.
Did BVV_d mentioned anything for a European tech tree? If he didn’t then anyone can just not consider this as conceptualized in the future. Some leaks where mentioned, listed years ago and never got added to the game, either the vehicles in the files.
Some of the leaks were already denied, also recently a Russian Gaijin staff member came out and denied the U.S. T-90A Trophy leak.