( POLL ) your personal view on J-15 situation ( china ARB top tier )

supposedly it got a buff recently

I believe that with reasonable adjustments, the J-15T can meet the relevant requirements. I have the following suggestions:

Taking the latest data from Test Server .21 on March 3 and the flight envelope of the WS-10B engine as an example, the engine’s ram thrust coefficient is lower than that of the WS-10A at all altitude ranges. This results in a significant difference in the growth rate of the thrust curve compared with the WS-10A.I sincerely hope the game developers will check the relevant coefficients and adjust the thrust curve reasonably.Currently, in top-tier fighter matches, the J-15T already ranks last in acceleration at high altitude and high speed, and I hope this issue can be taken seriously.

Take an altitude of 7,000 meters as an example:

  • At 0 km/h:Dual WS-10B thrust: 11,750 kgfDual WS-10A thrust: 10,447 kgfThrust difference: 1,303 kgf

  • At 400 km/h:Dual WS-10B thrust: 11,915 kgfDual WS-10A thrust: 10,968 kgfThrust difference: 947 kgf

The dual WS-10B gains 165 kgf of thrust from the ram effect at this speed range, while the dual WS-10A gains 521 kgf from the ram effect.Despite having higher static thrust and more advanced technology, the WS-10B even has lower ram efficiency than its predecessor, the WS-10A.

This may seem insignificant, but the gap will be further widened at higher speeds, even in the supersonic range, resulting in only a small improvement of the WS-10B over the WS-10A at high altitude and high speed.

According to the developers’ usual practice, thrust curves are usually made by scaling up the previous model proportionally based on the static thrust shown in the in-game stats panel.In other words, the thrust curve coefficients of the WS-10B should be consistent with those of the existing WS-10A in the game at all altitudes and speeds.However, in the latest test server, the coefficient of the WS-10B is significantly lower than that of the WS-10A, leading to insufficient thrust at high altitude and high speed.

At present, the climb and acceleration performance of the J-15T in these altitude and speed ranges is far below the average level of top-tier aircraft.I sincerely hope the game developers will attach importance to this issue.


At 7,000 meters, it is clear from the curve that the gap between the two is narrowest at 400 km/h. This lower ram ratio will carry over to higher speeds, making the actual performance improvement of the WS‑10B disproportionate to its static thrust increase,This problem is equally obvious at other altitudes and speeds.

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and iam gonna blow your mind the J-15T dosent have less countermeasures than the Su-33 because of that reason

i didnt say it has Less there on same level except ones 13.0 and ones 14.7 obviously struggling far more SU33 is a TOP 5 of its br

you did

last time i checked the su33 is also a flanker
and if the J15 has the lowest CM count of any flanker then it also means it has less than the Su33

again they are same plane its COPY 1 for 1 so obviously they both share the lowest CM spot ?

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sure go 8nto the sino flanker thread and say that the su33 and j15 are the same plane 1:1

i wish you good luck

quite literally same airframe just modified like saying the J11B and SU 27SM are unrelated they share same airframe one is just modified differently

its still a SU33 just modified its a variant