[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

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F for mig29…

R73 are too op for it while f15a with 9m snd 7m and f16 blk5 with 9m and magic 2 are not that op

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This really is quite stupid tbh why is the F15A shiftin to 12.7??? the Mig29 is miles worse
These US jets are just compressing , yet again, most BR brackets.

12.3 is filled with F16s, 13.3 is filled with them and su30s.

12.7 filled with F15As now , 11.7s like mig23ML getting bodied by them is hilarious but still now means we will end up with the mig23ML / MLD moving down to 11.3 if it keeps up.

Recompression.

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in my opinion just give the MIG-29s the R73s and leave them at the BR where they are, i mean it doesnt matter this BR bracket is full of SU-30s with 6x RVV-AE + 4x R73s. so atleast the MIG-29s have a chance of doing something.

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I can’t see how R-73s would be too good for 12.7 anyway, these days that BR range isn’t the same as it was in 2023. So many planes have been added since then and changed its landscape into one that can have the R-73s without any problem. Besides, they aren’t difficult to flare.

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We dont even need to exchange them anymore ffs.
Just give every mig29 R73 and ERs (as well as move down the 29G to 12.7)

The SU27 has 3x the amount of missiles, better acceleration, a better flight model and a better radar - and sits as the same BR as the 29G.

I dont see a reason why we need to cuck the 29 so fucking hard all the time

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Since 29G is basically what the 12.7 would become, we can try it out in customs.

Any of the 11.7 planes of your choice vs. my MiG-29G.

Just to see what happens.

Doesn’t matter, we have AIM-9M at 12.7, R-73 at 12.7 is justified.

Bro a full uptier will always be awful.
Try fighting a british/Italian eurofighter in your MiG29G (this is a pretty common setup actually)

or even at its own BR - try fighting a proper Su27 pilot with the 29G.

Its an objectively awful aircraft right now - with some of the worst flight performance, fuel economy and avionics of any 4th gen (only ones competing being Tornados and Harriers)

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I rather be in Tornado ADV at 13.0 than in MiG-29G at 13.0

Not denying that but solution to fixing it isnt making the game harder for 11.7-12.3 planes.

I absolutely love how the F-15A going down to 12.7 deleted several years of community pushing for decompression, instead is free for all rat race for people to get their planes buffed with F-15A at 12.7 as justification.

It makes me sick.

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No.

We shouldnt have 9Ms at 12.7 in the first place.

Even without the F15 at 12.7 the plane already suffered.

This issue isnt related to the F15A - it just makes it even more of an issue.

The planes flight model shouldve been fixed long ago - and its loadout shouldve been adjusted as promised by gaijin.

Irrelevant, we already do, and had it for quite a while (French F-16). We also getting R-73 on Yak-141.

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Which is also a better plane than the mig, even without R-73

ERs should be removed if the MiG-29 has R-73s at 12.7. If so, it turns it from a decent 12.7 into a bad 13.0, and it wouldn’t be fair for it to remain 12.7 with that loadout.

It has less missiles that F-15A at the same BR, with worse avionics and radar. And Yak-141 with R-27ERs will get R-73. So removing ERs in current situation isn’t needed anymore.

The F-15A should be 13.0, and it wasn’t even the worst 13.0 by a decent margin.

R-27ERs+R-73s would not be fun to face in an 11.7/12.0.

And yet it is at 12.7, it’s a done deal so it must be taken into the account.

Neither is any uptier in the game for one reason or the other. If MiG-29 had better radar, removing R-27ER would probably be a fair game, but N019 is stupidly easy to notch, ER won’t hit anything if radar can’t guide it.

only if the F15A is moved to 13.0 again and the F2A ADTW is moved to 13.3

otherwise I dont see a reason why at 12.7 the loadout would be unfair - especially considering the MiG29 has only 60 Countermeasures itself as well as one of the most abysmal flight models of the BR range

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