[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

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604

The only thing i know for sure is anytime there are changes, buffs, upgrades= nothing gets better. Gajin needs no help making the gane worse…

Av8 got “upgraded” now you cant aim. Yes im moaning- it cost real money and was ok before

The F16- people cried it didnt have amrams= 3 good f16s go poof.
Now we have one of the worst TT vics bar none. 45 CMs, mid radar - which now feels like RNG as no HMD so its 100% up to the game if lock.is obtaimed. F16C sits 1 place above- why did anyone need this junk?

605

That’s a bit of a misleading sentence. US mains crying on forums about R-73 being overpowered lead it to recieving R-27ER instead. And inability of people to fly below 100m in public lobbies lead to severe FM nerfs to “balance everything”

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606

The MiG-29 recieved the R27ER because US-mains cried about the R73 being too OP

Gaijin then promised the MiG-29s would get the R73s at a point where its feasable to deploy them on a capable fighter airframe.
We are just asking for this change to be finally made

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607

Not quite the cried about the r73 being op so the mig only got the r27r and r60 on release

Then, because nobody wanted to play the mig (since it was just worse the the f16 adf) they gave it the r27er to compensate

But then the Mig29 was way too good so they nerfed the flight model

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608

But you are failing to see the bigger picture.

Very few people will want to lose tbe only good thing about the jet- r27.

So its reality vs fun again.

Same reality is why the ki100 gets 1 min of fight fuel.
Same reason the F16A is now complete trash

The mig 29 is already grim- lets make it worse for realism 😐

609

we are not asking for the r27er to be removed, we are asking for it to be exchanged with the missile the mig-29 actually had access to:
the r-73

currently the mig playes like a missile bus without access to missiles, it also has more than suboptimal avionics for long range encounters

the mig-29 is a light frontline fighter, the counterpart to the f-16a and not a bvr bus

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610

Its not a good exchange

I half spaded the grippy 13.0 at weekend and its the hardest time iv had on WT. This sounds exactly the same with worse everything.

You could offer upgraded twice as good r73s and id still say no

611

i think you forget that the mig-29 still has access to radar missiles besides the r-27er

the r-27r

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612

idk about you but 6x R73 seem a whole lot more useful and reliable for a 12.7 plane than 4x R60Ms and 2x ERs

One loadout opens up the door of a 6x kill game if played correctly, the other is essentially limited to only 2.
and with planes like the F18C Late that can singlehandedly take out an entire team with their missile load, having more killing power will always benefit a plane

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613

yes, because you never played any mig-29 and you dont know what you are talking about

just play the mig-29 instead of talking about how you think it performs

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614

Never used the 27r

If its on par / better than r24s the mig 23 uses then ok. If its like a sparrow then a fat no.

615

it is a r27er with less range, becasue it dosent have the fat booster

616

Erm. Ul have to just tust me. I can play with anything i like.

617

then play the plane you are talking about in here

you opinion is based on absolutely nothing

618

I have.
Iv also.tried lots of other planes i dont have

619

so you are saying you played them on another account?

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620

Nope

621

so you didnt play the mig-29 then

622

Its good having friends.
I would of ended up buying all sorts of premiums if not

623

so someone shared their account

either that or you never played the Mig-29

both cannot be false at the same time