[POLL] Polish Tech Tree

It can!, but then it uses ammunition that is not standard for this caliber and no one produces it, so Poland, when converting the system to 40mm for the ZSSW for, let’s say, the future CBWP, would have to set up factories to produce such for itself

there is some info on different forums regarding his smoke deployment system besides that not much everything about it so far comes from OBRUM biulletin.

Wait this tank has info from OBRUM?

well, it appears once in a magazine from 2008 called 40 lat OBRUM, but the only thing shown there is a bit of information and a photo. Then there is also no. 2 of the 2018 edition which I lost somewhere, I can’t find it and there are a few more details about it, the only thing I can help you with now are a few interesting photos and what was changed, the tank uses a different cannon which can be clearly seen by the different muzzle brake (as for the actual cannon, you would have to dig a little harder here (personally i came across info that this is 105mm cannon then, someone stated that it had this modernized version shown in your post with autoloader but to be honest i dont know how would they fit it in this small turret so the topic is debatable), I once tried to get to the central military library in Warsaw but there you have to get a card etc. and I have 200 km there so it’s not worth it to prove something to someone on the forum haha, the libraries of AWL and other such universities are also blocked, maybe sometimes you can read something from this “created for everyone” one, I recently found something about the T-34-85M2 but let’s get back to the point), apart from that, the tank was tested on a training ground in Egypt where a more powerful engine probably 800hp one was used. apart from these facts, the standard, i.e. the Merida FCS and the STP-2 stabilizer for the new cannon.



EDIT: After 40minutes of trying to find this 2018 magazine unfortunately it got deleted :( for the source i used. But it can still be seen in any military library :/ which i cant acces due to not having their card.

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I’m interested to hear

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this is presumybly the cannon to HM-45 its 100mm
but most interesting thing is the engine some say its Gas turbine engine other say that its LPG with Diesel mix, If I wanted that in WT I would probobly use this as Premium or Event/Reward Tank on 9.3/9.7 depending on how compression will be in future, cuz now T-55AM-1 (USSR one) is on 9.0 yet HM-45 and Merida share same FCS that was most advanced FCS at that time.

Anyone know if mi-24 ever got upgraded? I am planning to make suggestion for WZL-1 Mi-24w (already have specifications), but just want to know if it was ever put through.

Last I read they tested the airframes and the decision to upgraded was halted until January 2025, but it is past that and I have found nothing new.

Anyway while I was researching I found mi-24 and mi-17 can have mase terma MAWS (same on apache)


I couldn’t find a better picture for Mi-17, but you can see the sensor barely on left side of the picture. In theory it can carry Shturm with the MAWS pod as you can see the missile mount is still accessible under the pod. This is only theory as Poland no longer has the Shturm.

Also does anyone know if Polish mi-17-1w has access to any other weapon then S-8?

On the topic of the HM-45 does anyone know what happened to it? Was it upgraded to T-55AM, destroyed, or hiding under Carpathian mountains?

Absolutely right. Adding a copy and paste tech tree doesn’t make any sense except to increase group wait times. I’ll admit that the Czech may have had some unique vehicles pre-WWII but the entire Polish tech tree is a copy-paste of the Soviet Union and Germany.

Some vehicles is an odd way of saying a ground tree that can literally outnumber the USSR ground forces with only 10 copy paste vehicles, Czechoslovakia has every right to be independent or at least with other central/eastern European countries.

Also who would get what Polish vehicles? Are we gonna swell an existing tree that doesn’t need these vehicles or are we going the Canada route and scatter the vehicles as breadcrumbs across trees?

There’s 3 candidates for Poland to go to and all of them don’t need it.

USSR has plenty of low tier light vehicles and modernisations of low tier vehicles. If it needs a subtree, it could easily get Iran, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Belarus and NK.

Germany literally has the largest tier 1 ground roster, a varied low tier altogether and East Germany to get soviet vehicles. Germany also has Switzerland.

UK is the best option but it already has Australian, New Zealand, Indian and South African vehicles.

Poland has a good enough chunk of vehicles to be in a new tree, even if it needs one or two helping hands.

Poland literally has more unique vehicles than czechoslavokia 💀💀💀

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Poland is so copy paste of Germany that it has astonishing 4 German vehicles which one is in the tech-tree in a form of 2PlM1 and 3 in premium as PZ IV J, Hetzer “Chwat” and Panther G, trully copy paste of a tech tree, speaking of copy pasting USSR, does China feel copy paste/ does it feel like you’re playing USSR 2.0 with nothing changed?

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Absolute coal.

Canada has tons of vehicles which struggle to be added because it’s split between 3 large trees. Any vehicles added are mostly premium or event so not many people could actually use them.

Same issue with Spain. Unless Spain gets a defacto tree, we aren’t going to be seeing it’s unique vehicles for a long while.

It’s nationalism to think that sprinkling unique vehicles across multiple trees as hard to get rewards is a bad idea and having a combined tree is the best way to get unique vehicles added? If anything, a latam tree is the worst example you could’ve chosen.

Israel does still have a few vehicles in low and high tier to add, it’s just gajin taking thier sweet time in doing so. Also Israeli equipment comes from quite a few nations so that leads to breadcrumbing.

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Ignore him, he’s just repeating what his favourite content creator said

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Seriously though, TEC’s view on adding only sub trees is quite silly

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Out of curiosity, what did he suggest which nations go where?

Watch this video, don’t really remember him talking about which nation would go there though, he just wants them all to be sub tree’s from what I understand

I think the topic is more talked about here

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Not the “use your flag” argument 😞

Also “the nations won’t get content every update” part. Gajin could just… not add every available vehicle at once.

His general point I think is that sub tree’s have a positive impact on other tech tree’s which is true, at least when the nation is not capable of being it’s own tech tree. But then there are tech tree’s which are very capable of being stand alone without too much copy & paste content.

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“you can get your own flags and decals in the game, just mean it isn’t independent”

Most diabolical thing to say, hire this dude for Russian tsardom

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Ironically if I want to use my birthplace flag, I have to wait for a holiday just to be able to buy it at full flag price (assuming it doesn’t go on another multi year hiatus).

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