It does get heated in a couple threads every now and then. The only reason why this is being discussed so much is because its so recent. Its only natural it becomes a hot topic when its so new. I mean, immediately after announcement you had people claiming Cyprus to go to the UK.
As the devs said, War Thunder will always have some element of politics.
Will this make the Israeli tree better? Yes and No. Israel has a lot of domestic vehicles missing and considering the last subtree we got was 50% C&P and Ahistorical, its only natural people would be against it for gameplay purposes aswell.
Exactly, I’m waiting for a decent response on that regard, people just want to vehicles away from Israel, even if that means not having them in the game at all
Cyprus to Israel feels a bit unneeded to me aswell. Only a couple vehicles really.
It performs more like an AA. It barely has any penetration w/ most of its rounds (like 58mm~ max?) and it uses AHEAD so I assume that’ll be it.
straight from Kerveros suggestion
The main reason cyprus is being bundled in is gor it’s SAM systems, it gives Israel something better than the god awful SPYDER AIO, similarly with romainian OSA to italy
Only thing Cyprus would add is the Buk and Aspide. Greece also has the Tor and the Osa. Cyprus would only bring the Aspide, Barak MX and Buk. The Barak is Israeli and the Aspide + Buk would just be filler to 11.0-12.0 where the Barak MX, Tor and fixed* Spyder would go. The IDF also used the Strela system on a BRDM hull. There’s also the Spyder ADS, HVSD/ADAMS (to a lesser), Iron Dome, a fixed Drakon/Chaparral.
think of it like this,isreal gets a rafale,an uprgaded phantom with aim120s and aim9L/I,Mirage 2000-or 2000EG,f16 block 30-50-52,A7 corsairs,f100,f104,upgraded apaches with spikes,leo2a6HEL,torm1,SA8 gecko (or OSA),ASRAD-HELLAS,leo2a4,1A5 (old and upgraded),m48 (old and upgraded),bmp1,marder a1.now to the cypriot side they get an mi35,bmp3,t80UK,and maybe t34,so yeah greece and cyprus will really put some length in the isreali grind which is a good thing,and also will put some sick ass vehicles.
Why would i want that tho, if i want a mirage i get either the french or chinese one, if i want a rafale i get the french one and if i want an upgraded phantom with 120s i play the ice, if i want to play a f16 i just play the isreal ones, and i dont wanna play an a7 or f104 or f100 again even so i would prefer the ones in the german or american trees idrc about ground so dont ask me for that, the only thing i could care from grease is the f102, but unless gaijin adds that i dont really care
Its nearly impossible to to have a game featuring vehicles of war and to not have a bit of a political edge. Im one of those 90% who would want the Cyprus tech tree to go anywhere but Israel. Having lived in Cyprus during the war in 74, i have a bit of an affinity towards the island. I also don’t see any kind of military/geopolitical connection between to two countries that would make them fit, other than they are both in the Med and in relatively close proximity.
Mainland Greece would be a better fit in an Israeli sub tree.
110%! its practically impossible to separate these vehicles from the real world.
Israel and RoC have had some close connections in terms of military but its so recent and not really fleshed out when you have some of the most powerful politicians being anti-Israeli.