Polish Tech Tree with Czechoslovakian sub-tree idea!

The name comes from an article in the Polish magazine “Wojsko i Technika Historia 2/2018”, however it does not seem to refer to the anti-ATGM screens. In the article it is written that “S-2” was a factory name given to the T-54A tanks, which started production in 1957. In 1957-1958 the tanks were tested in Sulejówek, and as a result it was decided to implement some minor modernizations. The Polish modernizations included: an electric fuel gauge, bonus fuel tanks on the fenders, adapting the tank for fording water, protection against napalm, and screans against HEAT ammunition, as well as some other things. However, the text does not refer to the screens with any special name. To me it seems that the name for these screens is either unknown, or they didn’t have any special name since they were only experimental and were not put to service.

As for ZET-1, it was the name of a Soviet system, which included folding mesh screens attached to the tank’s barrel, similar in appearance to an umbrella. It was not related to the Polish experiments in any way. The Polish screens are only called ZET-1 because someone on the internet must have made a mistake, and since there was no other known name for them people started repeating that.

Since there is no definitive way of referring to the Polish system, I think you should rename it to something like: “T-54A with HEAT protection”.

Ignore the last part about renaming it, I thought you were IN_SPEEDwE_TRUST, since you have the same avatar, haha.

Oh no I will need to re name it, thanks for explaining

If Gaijin didnt decide to make a Sub-tt a whole seperate line it would be fine. I would be much more happy to see vehicles mixed into already existing lines

Yup i would be happy too but i highly doubt that gajin will do something like this

This is even better (as I am Slovak) Do you have fir it forum post where would be possible to vote for it?

P.S. Though I am not sure if basic OT-90 and OT-64 should be so low. Yes they are not very powerful (latter one realy being almost crap) but lets balance it

Czechoslovak ground tree - Suggestions / Ground - War Thunder — official forum

Here you go

Happy Independence Day! 🇵🇱

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Make sure to get the Kotwica.


got mine already

mind taking a look at my Visegrad tech tree by the way? [POLL] We want to see a Visegrád tech tree in game!

No new tech tree this year or maybe even next year. Gaijin needs to fill tech trees with Leopards 2 first.

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thats sad :(

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+1 - same reason

comenting something for engagement

Poland has just signed a contract for 80 new Rosomaks-L with an unmanned ZSSW-30 turret. The new Rosomaks will receive a new Scania engine with up to 612 horsepower. They are 40 cm longer than their predecessors. They have larger fuel tanks and the option of installing external front plate armor so that the vehicle meets the requirements of STANAG level 4 protection. The first Rosomaks of this type will roll off the assembly line in 2027.

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Fully support that it would be a nice addition to the game with actually multiple new vehicles ^^

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Obviously a +1 from me for a Polish + Czechoslovak tech tree.

There are some mistakes however:

The mistakes:

This is the wrong picture if we follow the given description, what’s shown here is a

The Pandur II FSV with the OTO-Melara Hitfact is something else:


I would also like to suggest a couple polish vehicles which could be event or tech tree vehicles:

Cheers!

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Thanks! I will make the changes as soon as I can

14TP? unless you found smth that confirms it, 10TP was the last Polish design of WW2

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So I decided that it would be worth making such a summary of 2024 in our suggestion I will include contracts only from 2024 interesting messages and some things for the future.

Where to start here… maybe let’s start with IFV

Poland finally did not sign a contract for the Borsuk IFV in 2024 but they are supposed to do it at the beginning of 2025 the reason for the delay is supposed to be costs but also negotiations with HSW. HSW has currently produced 6 machines and is on track to produce up to 18 copies for its own money. (it is worth mentioning here that in one of the photos from the steel mill you can see the shell of the Badger with the number 15 which probably means the 15th copy of the vehicle) Poland plans to buy as many as 1400 copies of this vehicle to replace the BWP-1s no longer suitable for service and fill the gaps. By the way, we can also mention a possible variant of the Badger with a 120mm Morater, which is also in the suggestion as a prototype. At the end of the year, new 80 Rosomaks L were also purchased. From the Czech Republic and Slovakia, we of course have expectations for their CV90 vehicles in impressive configurations, which are to start reaching them next year. It is also worth mentioning the BOV 8x8 Patria vehicles that are already arriving for them.

From the ifv, we are moving on to what we are all waiting for the most, i.e. new tanks for our troops. Maybe we should start with the worse news and then move on to the better ones. The purchase of Leopard 2A8s for the Czech Republic may unfortunately be delayed due to a lower budget than was expected this year, although talks on this matter are still ongoing. As for Poland and the purchases of K2GF and K2PL, the next framework agreement for another 180 units is delayed, the reason for the delays are the changes in the contracts proposed by the Polish side (here we are talking about accelerating the implementation of the PL version) and their price, as for the wonderful K2PL, we still do not know exactly what it is supposed to look like, although from my information it appears that Poland wants to fit the tank within the ±60 tons limit, therefore the concept of an extended version with 7 road wheels is out. (although we will see how it will work out in the end with production in the country, besides, I also do not understand this provision for the tank to have 60 tons, since the ordered Abrams weigh much more) as for K2GF, Poland has so far collected 84 machines of this type by the end of 2024, apart from that, the most important thing is the fact that both parties want to fulfill the previously signed contracts and sign more for these tanks, the final number of which is to be 1000 units. Staying in 2024 for a while, Poland received the rest of its renovated M1A1FEP from the US Marines in the amount of 116 pieces with the new year and maybe even in the coming weeks the first Abrams in SEPV3 versions are to arrive in Poland. It should also be noted here that in the future Poland wants to modernize the older version to the SEPV3 standard and purchase Trophy systems for all tanks from the Abrams family. After tanks, it is time for artillery systems. At the end of the year, Poland purchased more Krabs for over 17 billion and what is important is that the contract is to consist of two stages 1 normal and 2 already modernized, the new Krab is to receive an automatic loader and a remotely controlled 12.7 machinegun rifle and a new smoke grenade system. This 2nd batch is to be delivered only from 2028.
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In the meantime, the largest contract this year turned out to be Apache 64 combat helicopters in the E version for over USD 10 billion, which will start reaching Poland from 2028. On the occasion of this purchase, we can mention Boeing and its F-15EX, which can probably be purchased this year, although this is my personal prediction after talking to PGZ at MSPO. If we are talking about aircraft, we must mention the F-35 Lightning II purchased by the Czechs and Poland, although Poland will receive them faster because the first copy is already ready. In 2025, Poland will also receive the first FA-50PL, but I will not provide information about it here because there is really no place to look for detailed information about it so far. In 2024, Polish F-16s have reached their mid-life, which is why Poland intends to sign a contract for modernization to the V standard, for which the US department has given its consent. and finally, Poland also decided to purchase MQ-9B drones in 2024. In the end, Poland spent 99.1% of the funds from the planned budget of 4.1% of GDP on defense in 2024. In 2025 it is to be as much as 4.7%, which will only confirm Poland as the 1st country in NATO that spends such a large percentage of its GDP on the military.
So let’s hope for an even more interesting year 2025, although wasn’t that one already?

If I missed something important, you can always add it, it would be great :)