UK didn’t get an SPAA this update when most other nations did. Maybe they could have if Gaijin didn’t have to satisfy the needs of 10 different trees. We’ll never know.
Cool. Poland can go to Russia or UK. There is your common theme.
Or we can just spread them out because not every nation needs to be consolidated. Poland included.
Folders did not exist a couple of years ago. Before that there were more than 3 vehicles per line per rank. There is no rule and Gaijin can continue to update the system.
Yes, and by and large most canadian players do not care. If anything they were more annoyed that they went to Germany rather than the UK, but you can count on one hand the number of Canadian players complaining about the lack of an independent Canadian tree because Canada does not produce domestic vehicles.
It’s actually funny that you bring up Italy because Italy should have been a subtree in Germany- but Italy sucked as an independent tree so they literally had to give Italy German vehicles to make it a competitive tree because the Italian players complained. Funny how that works.
I mean if you could read other two colors you could guess or assume what does it mean.
but special offer for you, I will again say it, beacsue I care about special people in our lovely comunity :)
Original - When determines vehicle that was produced from scratch, was heavyli modified that is at least in 50% difrent from what original gives.
example: T-72M1R
Difrences from T-72M1:
3rd generation thermals
better FCS (which means better turret drive and vetrical guidence)
new tracks and upgraded engine (still good ol 780HP yet it has better acceleration and tracksion)
Is it difrent from the origianl? it is, in at least 50%? kind of.
(other examples: T-72M1Z, BWP/BWO-40, BWP-95, PT-91 Twardy and T-54AM2)
Modified yet nothing changed - Determines vehicles that even tho has been modified in said country in game will be acting the same as other vehicle that is supposably or not be modification of other vehicle.
example: T-55AM “Merida”
Difrences from T-55AM-1 (even tho irl it was modification of T-55A):
Less powerfull engine but with more tourque (640HP not 690HP)
better FCS (IRL it worked like in T-80B(or very close to what T-80 FCS could do) if adding better FCS actually would do something i could count it as the “Original”
more smoke
Laser Warning System
Lack of Barrel launched ATGM
It would act same as T-55AM-1 since I don’t thing Gaijin would look into Merida Fire Control System and how it actually made this Tank one of the Best in its class at the time of the production.
Uniqe/Not in other TT - Vehicle that doesn’t have any counterpart/vehicle that can be connected to, and its uniqe in its playstyle by its own
Example: K2GF or Polski Fiat 621L
Listen man, I know you’re trolling or trying to prove something that you really can’t prove or you can’t really put it into words, any time you show up here you get Ratio’ed so hard youi leave and come back later just to grind another topic that you allegedly want to proove yet you can’t. You emberesed yourself about:
and other topics.
You’re trying to find bottom in the bottomless pit or idk find out who cared.
And belive me, if you once again come here just to troll the entirerty of this Topic I will report that to moderation, because even though you try to act smart you come out not so smart or at least not in how you wanted us to understadn. Yes I know that everyone has certain option on something but grinding same thing over and over again makes my head spin, regardless try to put your words better or don’t even bother trying to interact with you.
Is this about the Leopards? Also German vehicles are an very small minority of vehicles comparing to Italian vehicles, some even have differences like the Stug III G. Throwing away most of the Italian vehicles to slot into Germany (which also would see losses of German vehicles and other nations slotted in Italy) seems very short sighted. Also not everyone plays top tier.
Neither nations need Poland. That’s the thing. Poland would be better in a new tree with Czechoslovakia rather than either crammed into a large tree or breadcrumbed.
The update is widely regarded as rushed. Also one of the dev streams said that the nations not getting a spaa this update would receive one next update iirc.
Also you want Swedish vehicles in Germany? Germany is probably one of the last trees that needs ground reinforcements and wouldn’t need any Swedish or Finnish aircraft.
That with the whole Israel to USA and China to USSR really speaks volumes.
No it’s not. And don’t blame me when you misrepresent that the tree has more original than it actually is based on such arbitrary feelings. Further, if orange designates a completely original polish vehicle, why does it include the M1a1 FEP?
Yes, but even low/mid-tier italy is primarily composed of copy-paste vehicles from other nations. Italy’s own domestic contributions to its own tree are few and far between, and are not sufficient to stand alone. Note- if they wanted to add a mediterranean tree that had enough domestic vehicles to work, that would be fine.
Sure, things like the STRV 121s and 122s should have gone to Germany because they are just leopards with slight changes. They didnt need to add a bunch of copy-paste swedish vehicles. I dont see whats controversial about that.
There’s a reason that this community is thank fully not in charge of the game, tech tree’s will be added in 2026 no point arguing about what is copy & paste compared to what we have in game, time to start comparing which potential tech tree’s will be the least copy & paste.
(Forgot to scratch the zsu-23-4v, M109G, P-47 and zsu-57-2 point still stands)
Also note that Hungary has most of the copy and paste, a subtree widely regarded as the lowest effort one due to the available options from Hungary.
And the other original Swedish/Finish vehicles? Or is this just exclusivity for a vehicle with actual gameplay differences to another? Germany has plenty of its own leopard 2s and 1s to get.
Sweden was a net plus because it added a batch of new vehicles and modifications without costing anyone else any tree slots. Same with a PL-CZ (and maybe UKR) tree, same with LATAM, same with Yugoslavia.
Pre war vehicles are all unique. The air tree is unique until about mid rank 3.
During the communist times there were plenty of unique vehicles made in Poland and in collaboration with czechoslavokia (SKOT, TOPAS).
Matter of fact, SKOT served as a sort of basis for many modern APCs like the Stryker and others
I doubt you did any research, and additionally this tech tree is rather small than what it could be and would be more realistic for the devs. I have a much larger ground and air tree that has plenty of unique vehicles, more than most minor nations.
Also by your logic the UK should’ve gone to America due to all the lend lease vehicles and US cold war vehicles.
Also yeah, Germany does have some air issues, but Italy has some ground issues. Instead of making two different trees they should have just been combined to let the trees play off of each lthers strengths.
