Oh no. That one German round that penetrates 5% more than it should, of cousre means that all APC rounds overperform.
Do you have the same data for 17pdr APC and 75mm Pzgr. 39?
It’s just nitpicking. You know how many AP rounds in-game overperform 0-30° wise?
Let’s focus on what should be important: APC rounds penetrating more 0-40° armor while AP rounds penetrating more >45°.
It’s not nitpicking. All APC rounds are overperforming to some degree.
Gaijin chose a standard, one size fits all system. The system has to be fairly implemented.
Nice. I was looking for this document for quite some time.
Well, it says BHN ranging from 250 - 325. So depending on the hardness you get different results.
In-game we don’t have some specififed armor hardness and all armor is treated equally.
I understand. I’m just trying to find information using the same standard to eliminate any debate about what constitutes a penetration.
They buffed accuracy of the gun. Some good news.
It passed to developers!
Also, can you help find T.I summary N139 Aug 44?
Will do more harm then good.
Have fun with your T25 at 6.7 and your M46 and M47 at 7.7.
Not to mention how tanks like the M36 will go up in BR leaving the US with no high powered gun as TD.
The overpressure mechanic for APHE is BS anyway. Would require way more explosive to have the same effect as HE.
I mean I’m not against players choosing between APHE with more or less filler but the ovepressure mechanic is just dumb.
There is no justification for moving tanks up in BR over stock APHE.
There is justification to move tanks up in BR because they start performing better.
With overpressure the old M82 is much more better than the M82 with less filler but higher muzzle velocity and penetration.
The difference between hitting any tank in the turret just once and knock it out is just way more valuable than the slightly better velocity and penetration.
To be entirely fair the M36 already barely has a reason to stay at 5.3.
It already was quite good before, and now both the M82 and the 90 mm cannon have been buffed on it with higher muzzle velocity and less drag on M82, and less than half of the maximum dispersion on the cannon itself.
True. Much better than the M18 at 5.7.
Now the only difference between the M36B2 is that one gets HEAT for being much less mobile and having a giant muzzle break.
Yeah the M36B2 is much more of a side grade to the M36 than an actual upgrade due to the massive loss of mobility.
The Japanese M36 and the Italian M36B1, however, don’t lose nearly as much mobility, specially the Japanese M36, which I do believe to be the best overall M36 in the entire game.
So why isn’t the Tiger E like 7.0 with its high filler APHE?
Because the Tiger E doesn’t have M36 level of mobility, nor a fast turret traverse compared to other US tanks.
So? It has over pressure. It should be at least 7.3.
Lets be real, the M36 pays for its firepower and mobility by getting overpressured if anything HE or HEAT hits it. The PT-76, for an example, is basically the natural predator against M36s because of its 5 second reload HEAT.
The M18 at least has the whole ‘no armor best armor’ thing going for it while also being faster to boot. The only thing it cant do is snipe, but neither can the M36.
What would actually make the M36 uptier material is if the solid AP can penetrate the hordes of Panthers, Jagdpanthers and the Panzer IV/V. Finally, a tank that can comfortably engage German medium tanks from beyond point blank.
Except that the M36 has a .50cal which turns the PT-76 into swiss cheese, even from a turret down position. But sure, the PT-76 is pretty good at killing open top vehicles.
It’s probably somewhat underrated with the stabilizer, reload rate and HEAT-FS that is decent for dealing with all sorts of targets.
Nah, the M18 is in a spot were everything kills it easily. The armor just stops 7.7mm but nothing more.
And in most cases APHE will fuze on the M18. I rarely had to shoot a M18 more than once to kill it.
No one is going to use the solid shot, as long as APHE is so effective or even overpressures.
It will be kinda like APCR, where you maybe carry a few in case you spot a Panther and have time to switch ammo.
It makes no sense to think that a round that can pen a Panther but is worse against anything else is going to make the vehicle so much better.
I killed a T-34-85 with M82 today even though I could only see like 10cm of his turret. With T33 I might have not even knocked out the gun with such shot.
So a vehicle that beats Germany at mobility but can also negate their range advantage?
It would just turn the M36 into a more effective vehicle than the Panther.
The only thing the Panther would offer is frontal armor and not getting overpressured from HEAT.
While the M36 would be better at knocking out vehicles with firepower alone, not to mention the mobility.
“I want to uptier US vehicles just because”- KillaKiwi. How adding low pen/high damage shell(ever less pen than pervious) for skilled/or risky players must send it up?
The difference in penetration hardly makes a difference for the ability to kill vehicles by just having the round enter anywhere.
No one uses the Pzgr. 39 on the Tiger anymore, because it’s completely pointless compared to a round that kills regardless where you penetrate the enemy.
Also, I don’t want to uptier US vehicles but that’s just what is going to happen when they get better at killing others.
If APHE overpressure gets adjusted, and even, god fobid, APHE gets nerfed to realistic levels, then no one is going to use the M82 with more filler but less performance.
Not anywhere. Tog backasswards will survive if engine hit, IS probally too. Tortoise survived cupola hit from Tiger.
It will have much less points to penetrate, that balances it.
