they should be facing shit like stormer or asrad only in a full uptier, not constantly.
loL LOL lol You don’t want to get CAS, you want to cause a massacre.
Everything goes up and do you think nothing should go up?
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One of the most toxic and undertiered tanks alongside XM803/MBT70/KPz70.
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xm803 is NOT undertiered
It’s very much undertiered.
Especially now that MBT70 are going up to 9.7 as they should be.
Just word it for yourself how is XM803 and M60A3 TTS are same BR. How is STRV104 same BR as smth as fast and toxic as that.
its only quality is mobility
Ah yes so top tier mobility, top tier stab speeds and autoloader, decent armor suddenly do not make a good tank. Also dart is just better than soviet counteroarts at same BR because somehow XM578E1 is NOT a short rod APFSDS so it has better spall than soviet T-55’s at better fire rate. So it has all overall qualities better than ANY other 9.0 MBT.
You cant even understand how much it doesnt make sense when M60A3 TTS and STRV104 being at same BR as this does not ring a bell in your head.
Literally WHAT quality do THOSE have above it.
7.5s isn’t really fast
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It’s faster than any chinese or soviet tank at the BR and it’s faster than majority of 105mm players because those majority are premium scum or people who were brought there on premiums who have zero loader skill invested into
???
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All soviet extra br were given to the japan insted, type 74/90, oplot and hawk are just a joke
Wait the T-80UD was supposed to be strong at current 10.7?
and the 2s38 too ?
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Leaving aside the vehicles that were most likely just forgotten in the first round of BR changes: most stabilized ground vehicles got bumped up by 0.3 BR, but at the same time, most CAS-capable fixed-wing fighters in Ground RB got bumped by 0.7 or even 1.0 BR. That pretty much screws over the fixed-wing CAS setup in every existing lineup. Since most nations usually need a 0.7 or even bigger BR gap to build a viable lineup, that 0.4 BR difference means every fixed-wing CAS plane now has to deal with SPAA that’s at least 1.0—or even 2.0—BR higher than it. That’s basically a death sentence for every fixed-wing CAS plane above 10.0 BR. Just imagine an A-4N having to go up against a Tor-M1, or the Jaguar GR1A and Buccaneer S2B having to go up against a Pantsir-S1.
Fixed-wing CAS planes shouldn’t have gotten a 0.7 BR increase—they should’ve gotten the same 0.3 increase as ground vehicles.
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T-55A uptier doesnt really make sense, especially to 8.7 where overtiered T-62 is. M60A1 AOS is at 8.3, same BR as T-55A is and it’s just objectively better than T-55A by armor and rangefinder, as well as commander override, but worse by spall damage (short rod APFSDS vs APDS isnt that much diff than APFSDS vs APDS is).
Especially when mobility and accel of T-55A and M60A1 AOS are exactly the same.
Just dont uptier T-55A and STB2/Tyepe 74, they’re not really outstanding MBT’s at 8.3, they re worse than most 8.7’s.
By Gaijin’s logic Type 74 and T-55A deserve to be at BR of Leopard A1A1 and Turm 3.
Move T-62 down it has no reason to be above T-55A when it’s just worse T-55A at same BR as in every way better Object 122TM. Same with 435.
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??? Insane bad Anti air but ok , rest is valid
Vehicle: t-80ud/be
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 11.0 → 11.3
Additional Change::Add BTA4
Reason: The T-80UD/BE has always had its BR tied to the T-80UD, with the former sitting 0.3 BR higher than the latter. In this BR update, the UD clearly needs to be raised to 11.0, but the UD/BE would struggle to remain usable at 11.3 with 3BM42. I suggest giving the UD/BE BTA4 ammunition, decoupling the two vehicles’ BRs, and raising both together.
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It already didnt make sense to not have it when every 11.0-3 typically has better shells than 10.7’s, MSC, T-90A/ZTZ-99’s, Merkava’s. And the shells those fire are all available from 10.0 too with M60 AMBT, 120S, Israeli M60 mod, 2S25M.
First of all, in what world is it justified to put a gunless Mirage 2000 with only 2 AGMs and 2 GBUs at 12.3? It sits at the exact same BR bracket as the Pantsir-S1, making it virtually impossible to survive or effectively deal with top-tier air defense.
Second, how is the MSC now at a higher BR than the T-90A ? The MSC has worse thermals, a weaker shell, and zero armor compared to the T-90A, requiring significantly more skill to play it effectively. Meanwhile, the T-90A could easily be moved to 11.3 and still perform perfectly fine.
I also strongly believe that the Leclercs are overtiered at 13.0 (especially the early versions). In the current meta, they have practically no usable armor while constantly facing high-penetration APFSDS rounds that easily slice straight through the hull. On top of that, their fragile internal damage modules leave them completely crippled after a single hit, and their round selection feels average at best compared to top-tier competitors. To fix this, I believe the lineup should be stepped down accordingly:
- Leclerc S1: Moved to 12.3
- Leclerc S2 & Leclerc AZUR: Moved to 12.7
- Leclerc S21: Moved to 13.0
Finally, the fact that the BMPT can still encounter the Leopard 2A4 and the baseline M1 Abrams is ridiculous. The BMPT should be moved to 12.3 —it would easily remain competitive while giving lower-tier MBTs a fair chance.
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So, we only know of at least one American F-102A in one American group in Vietnam who did this experimental modification.
What justification other than maintaining the exact same balance with both aircraft does the Greek (Israel) F-102A get this modification?
I can’t even find a source that the Hellenic Air Force ever even field the SUU-11/A at all