Planned Battle Rating Changes (October 2026) — Aircraft and Ground Vehicle Decompression

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Vehicle: Harrier GR.3
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 ----> 9.3
Reason: The Harrier Gr3 is rather lacking in terms of performance when it comes to CAS and Britain has very little in the way of 9.7 line-up for ground. The Harrier Gr3 is weaker than the Buccaneer S2 already at 9.3 for CAS but would provide a stronger option for a CAP Fighter, which is a little lacking at that BR, with the only meaningful option the Hunter F1 on the TT or Hunter FGA9 if you have the premium.

With the Tornado WTD61, Tornado MFG and Tornado A200 only 0.3 BR above as well, with notably better performance in every single respect, the need to lower the Harrier GR.3 is only increased further.

The Harrier Gr3 could also receive a Phimat pod for increased survivability

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If the Gepard is going to 8.7, and by extension the incoming PRTL will be likely be 8.7 then what’s the point? France will still have an SPAA gap from 6.3 to 8.7, but will have two SPAA at 8.7?

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Vehicle: Harrier GR.1
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 ----> 9.3
Reason: The Harrier Gr1 is rather lacking in terms of performance when it comes to CAS and Britain has very little in the way of 9.7 line-up for ground. The Harrier Gr1 is weaker than the Buccaneer S2 already at 9.3 for CAS but would provide a stronger option for a CAP Fighter, which is a little lacking at that BR, with the only meaningful option the Hunter F1 on the TT or Hunter FGA9 if you have the premium. Additionally, the Harrier Gr.1 has no CMs and is unable to defend against any of the IR threats at this BR

With the Tornado WTD61, Tornado MFG and Tornado A200 only 0.3 BR above as well, with notably better performance in every single respect, the need to lower the Harrier GR.3 is only increased further.

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Vehicle: Hunter F6 (Britain)
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 —> 9.3
Reason: The Hunter F6 has very limited GRB potential, with a minimal A2G weapons load, especially alongside missiles and no CMs. Compared directly to the Hunter FGA9 already at 9.3, let alone other 9.3s such as the Buc S2, it is notably underpowered in this role.

The main strength for it, is the AAMs that would give a much needed CAP option for our 9.3 line-up which is about to become our primary BR of this bracket.

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Can you make it so I can download this excel sheet please

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I have repeatedly tried to suggest these changes individually, but its really hard to convey the problem properly and no changes have occurred in the past year or 2 of reporting it, so im going to try a different format for it

Gamemode: Air Simulator
Aircraft affected: Hawker Hunters
Issue: The battle-ratings within Air Simulator are a total mess currently for the Hawker Hunters and they don’t make any sense, with factually weaker aircraft at higher battle-ratings compared to stronger ones, and aircraft that are notably different in performance at the same battle-rating. So I’m suggesting a fundamental rework of all their BRs.

What it is currently:

Engine Wing Missile CMs RWR BR
Hunter F1 Avon 113 Basic None None No 9.0
J-34 (Hunter F4) Avon 115 Basic 2x Aim-9B None No 9.3
Hunter F6 (Dutch) Avon 203 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9B None Yes 9.0
Hunter F58 (1971) Avon 207 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9E None No 9.7
Hunter FGA9 Avon 207 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9E None No 9.7
Hunter F6 (RAF) Avon 207 Dogtooth 4x SRAAM None No 9.7
Hunter F58 Avon 207 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9P 60 Yes 9.7

Dogtooth wing: This is a revised leading edge design for the wing and notably improves the flight performance of the Hunter

As you can see, the Dutch F6 is notably stronger than the J-34 and Hunter F1 and yet is at 9.0.

The Swiss Hunter F58 is notably stronger than the FGA9, 1971 and arguably even the British F6 and yet they are all the same BR.

Proposed changes:

Engine Wing Missile CMs RWR BR
Hunter F1 Avon 113 Basic None None No 8.7
J-34 (Hunter F4) Avon 115 Basic 2x Aim-9B None No 9.0
Hunter F6 (Dutch) Avon 203 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9B None Yes 9.0/9.3
Hunter F58 (1971) Avon 207 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9E None No 9.3
Hunter FGA9 Avon 207 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9E None No 9.3
Hunter F6 (RAF) Avon 207 Dogtooth 4x SRAAM None No 9.7
Hunter F58 Avon 207 Dogtooth 2x Aim-9P 60 Yes 9.7

The F1’s total lack of missiles means it is entirely reliant on its gun, and its flight performance is not unreasonable when compared to aircraft such as the Mig-15BIS or even the Scimitar F Mk1.

The J-34 has a similar flight model, but does gain 2x Aim-9Bs which are a lot more capable in Air Sim as you can ambush players.

The Dutch F6 is tricky to place. It does not get the Aim-9Es that the FGA9 and F58 (1971) have, but does have a far more similar Flight performance. Making it much stronger than the J-34 in a gunfight, but weaker in terms of missiles to the F58 (1971) and FGA9. What is ultimately needed here is a decompression, but either BR of 9.0 if missile performance is considered most important or 9.3 if flight performance is considered most important. With the other changes proposed either option would be fairer than what is currently in-game. I personally lean towards it being 9.3, as it is still largely going to be reliant upon gunfighting, but I can see arguments for either BR.

The F58 and British F6 are both notably stronger than the FGA9 and F58 (1971) in their own respects. SRAAMs are a lot more effective in Air Sim, due to the supersonics being a higher BR, the amount of flare equipped aircraft being reduced, and the ability to get the drop on enemy aircraft unaware and the F58 has more capable missiles than Aim-9E, and also gains countermeasures and an RWR, making it defensively far stronger. Whilst in an ideal world, these 2 would not sit at the same BR, compression is a major issue, and I don’t think the F58 would perform well against any of the aircraft that currently reside at 10.0.

There is also wide difference in terms of Air-to-Ground performance as well, and whilst I don’t think it is worth mentioning in terms of battle-rating, these proposed changes would also help mitigate those differences as well

These changes would give a meaningful reason to play the various different Hawker Hunters, depending on the current rotation, at the moment, I see little reason to bring the FGA9 over the F6, or the F58 (1971) over the F58, as they are all the same BRs. and issues such as the J-34 and Dutch F6 really really shouldn’t exist at all.

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HAWK 200

Air Realistic battles

10.7->10.3 Slowest plane at the BR other than A-10 but far worse overall as a strike aircraft. should be the lowest all aspect carrying plane in game to reflect its general worthlessness. also give it AGM 65D as 209 has them

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Vehicle: Z 51
Game Mode: Naval Realistic
BR Change: 4.7 → 4.0
Reason: Fire Power is comparable to the Z15 Erich Steinbrink at 4.0, less so when taking torpedo armament into account; it is also noticably slower than the other germna DD’s at it’s BR.
I see no reason for it to be as high of a BR as it is.

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T-72B3 not going up is a choice

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MIG-23MF/M
Air realistic
11.0->11.0
WTF these will be so op, all aspect r60s, MTI r23’s while bad still a competent weapon, extremely fast, holds speed well at 0 wing angle, at 10.7?
The low flare count is near 0 issue if you don’t pointlessly dump them

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F16i sufa 13.7 —> 14.0
Give it I derby or I derby er and then move it to 14.0
Like it’s already ass in ARB
SALT THE SNAIL SALT THE SNAIL SALT THE SNAIL

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SK-105A2 goes from 8.7 to 9.0 but the JaPz.K A2 stays at 8.7?

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Vehicle: R3 T20 FA-HS
Gamemode: GRB
Suggested BR: 6.0 → 6.7
Add: APDS Belt, NVD
Reason: The HVAP Belt is very prone to non-penetration and shattering, making it i’ll suited for engaging Ground Vehicles

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Vehicle: French / German EMBT
Ground Realistic / Ground Arcade
Battle Rating: 12.7 —> 13.3 but with DM53 / SHARD

i’ll speak for the french one as it is the one i own, but the same argument is 101% also for the german one:

With the BR decompression increase it is absurd how the weakest top tier vehicle of france with a turret ring of at very best 80mm that can be penned by practically everything is getting a full charge from 12.7 to 13.3 while retaining such disadvantage and one of the worst top tier bullets such as OFL F1, ergo having nothing any worth over other leclercs or even the Leopards

so i propose the addition of DM53 or SHARD respectively to the nation to compensate the pityful weakspot of the EMBT and his awful firepower, something that the Leclercs or Leopards at 12.7 or 13.0 don’t have…

or even the extremely undertiered 12.3 Abrams and clickbait

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Is this a f*cking joke? In what world almost is a full BR from the tech-tree one justifiable?
Furthermore, the Su-25 also has 6 laser guided and 2 all aspect IR missiles, AND IT SITS AT 9.7.

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This is a shitshow

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HAWK 200 RDA

Air Realistic battles

11.3->10.7 Slowest plane at the BR and has no gun. Skyflash gives it a skill filter weapon but its generally hopeless, also give it AGM 65D as 209 gets them

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and not limited to 35° elevation lmao

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PGZ88 8.0→8.7→8.3 (with APHE)
PGZ88 is not as powerful as Cheetah, and there is no reason for it to be superior to Cheetah

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Lemme just say im so happy with the premium Su-30s.

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Air Realistic
J-15T
Leave the J-15T at 14.7, it’s not a 15.0 material aircraft due to severe lack of countermeasures.

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