Its a tiny win. Compared to what is actually needed, its a drop in the occean.
Tearful LOLZ @ the helis like the Mi-4AV and H-34 going up in BR.
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Vehicle: A 32A Lansen
Mode: Ground Realistic + Air Realistic
BR Change: 9.0 → 8.7
Reason: with the J 35A being moved down to 9.0 alongside the J 32B, this would be a perfect opportunity to lower the battle rating of the A 32A. The aircraft currently lacks guided munitions of which many aircraft in the 9.0 - 9.7 range have. It also lacks air-to-air weaponry and flare countermeasures while being within the battle rating range of both Su-25 frogfoots, of which have access to all-aspect A2A missiles and guided weaponry.
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and F/A-18C (USA, Germany) and CF-188 to 13.0
Ok then
Vehicle: All the 12.7 F-15A
Mode: ARB
Change: 12.7 → 13.0
Reasoning: The F-15A is weaker than some 13.0s but that’s a consequence of compression and it is absolutely superior to 12.7s and many 13.0s. It shouldn’t be placed at 12.7
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IA58
Ground RB 4.3->5.0 or higher
The IA-58 has very strong air combat capability, even outperforming many fighters at the same BR.
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I know it’s not much, but we have to take every tiny bit that we can get (and try to prevent people from undoing that)
Vehicle: SU-30MK2/MKK
Mode: Air Realistic
BR Change: 13.3 → 14.0
Reason: Superior to a lot of stuff that’s being moved up to 13.7. Do people actually think F-16A OCU (no HMD, 45CM, less missiles, etc.) is on par with MKK? SU-34 is also going to 14.0, so there’s zero reason SU-30 should stay at 13.7 if SU-34 is going up.
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Pretty controversial changes, although I can’t complain about top tier moving to 13.3. There shouldn’t be a world where the Leclerc and Leopard 2A6 sit at the same BR as the 2A7V.
Air realistic
J29F
9.0->8.7
It’s verrrrry slow in max speed and acceleration; even though it has an afterburner and 2 aim9b, it’s just about average at everything else
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Naval
USS Porter - 5.3>5.0 No!
(also applicable to Somers and other 4 turret Porter class DDs)
These were moved up because their extra turrets and fast fire rate caused them to dominate equals. Lowering them again simply cause more compression and questions the usefulness of existing 5.0 DDs.
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Vehicle: CLAWS
Gamemode: GRB
Suggested BR: 12.3 → 12.3 (stay at the same BR)
Reason: Compared to the Pantsir S1 which is set to go to 12.3, the CLAWS is worse in nearly every way. It has a worse radar, shorter range missiles, no gun for self defense, is worse at intercepting munitions, and it is a multi vehicle SAM which makes it a bit harder to manage. The only advantage it has is the AIM-9X which works very good up close, but past ~4-5km it’s basically useless against anything that is not a heli or stalled out plane, and the vast majority of targets will not enter its effective range. Not to mention the fact that most of the planes the Pantsir S1 will fight cannot even see its track/launch on RWR. Leaving it at 12.3 will also allow it to be used with the 12.0 lineup now at 12.3.
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Vehicle: ITO-90 (all variants)
Gamemode: GRB
Suggested BR: 12.0 → 12.0 (stay at the same BR)
Reason: Compared to the Pantsir S1 which is set to go to 12.3, the ITO is worse in every way. Worse search radar, worse tracking radar, shorter range but slightly more maneuverable missiles, no gun, and it is worse at intercepting incoming munitions.
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Jaguar IS
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Vehicle: Mirage 2000D-RMV
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR Change: 12.7 → 12.3
Reason: The Mirage 2000D-RMV is a completely inferior version of the Mirage 2000C-S4/S5 for air to air combat in flight performance and missile load, yet sits at a higher BR in ARB.
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Thy is the A5C moving to 11.0 now? Its one of the weakest 10.7’s
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Air realistic
Ki200
8.3->8.0
It is simply too slow. “But you can cruise for a long time on low throttle” yes, but at the same time you are very vulnerable because you are so slow, and have to reactively accelerate
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The EMBT is going up? That’s certainly a choice.
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I don’t know, 11.7 looks high with only 4 AIM-9P-4, it has no place seeing a F-15 or F-18
Vehicle: Tornado F3 (Late)
Mode: Air Realistic
Proposed BR Change: 13-13.3
Reason for NOT proceeding with this change: The Tornado F3 Late is regularly uptiered among premium Su-30s as it is. Statistically as of August/September 2026 it has the lowest K/D of any of the Tornado ADV variants in the game. The Win Rate has trended downward also predominantly due to regularly being uptiered into Su-30 matches.
Simply increasing it in lockstep with the Premium Su-30s (themselves going to 13.7) will simply perpetuate the issue.
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