Waste of time, same result.
Beglit:
- is faster by 5 km/h
- has more hp, and torque
- faster ROF and exceptionally good proxy shell
- APBCB-T which has insane spall often one tapping
- atgm 650 Pen
- 75km/h reverse vs the 2s38’s 20 km/h reverse (that’s over 3 times faster)
- Harder to hit ammo supply
- Sloped armor that can and will often bounce early darts.
Also thanks for ignoring literally all other aspects of the vehicle that make it significantly worse compared to the Beglit
Hmm. I can’t recall if I’m missing something…
Regardless, if the 2s38 is 10.7, then the Beglit is 10.3 worthy. They’re pretty much identical, bar the lack of smoke grenades, so 10.3 is a great fit.
Then why are you even in this thread?
Pretty sure the premium one gets a LRF
Watching all the terrible players here arguing for nothing is an ok entertainment.
Ok…i saw people getting nukes in m22 at 12.7…
How does this have any value as an argument😅
I meant the 105 a1a1
So i wrote that last night at like 3 am, now im reading and im struggling to remember why i posted that XD, i think i was referring the lack of thermals on the BMP3 early.
Oh for sure, further up I suggested it moving to 8.7 (Higher it would require new ammunition for uptiers, which would then make it worse to fight against in a downtier, we need a 8.0-10.0 decompression in general IMO)
I just didn’t understand the comment that it’s supposedly takes little damage. I tend to do hesh only challenges to spice things up, and the Turms is a delight in those cause its so easy to kill.
If you’ve got a DS, it can be a bit frustrating.
DS? Not familiar with that acronym
Please lower BR for the F-4EJ Kai! It’s unplayable in ARB right now because it plays against 13.0-13.3 70% of the time. I understand, that this happens due to compression, but Mig-23ML with worse radar, but somewhat better missiles (R-224R has IG) placed on 11.7!
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: F-4EJ Kai
Change: 12.3 → 12.0. 11.7 will be too much, but on 12.0 it will have chances to play in top of BR bracket. 11.7 have enough chances to kill it due to late 60’s airframe.
Reasoning: The EJ Kai is unplayable at 12.3. Comparing to Mig-23ML (11.7), F-4S (12.0) and F/A-18C Early(12.7):
1)Flight Model: The F-4S has Agile Eagle slats and better engine. F/A-18C Early is Gen4 airframe (better at all). Mig-23ML has worse flight model, but a little bit faster. F-4EJ Kai has early Gen3 airframe.
2)Radar: The F-4S has an HMD but worse radar, F/A-18C Early’s radar is better at all. Mig-23ML’s radar worse.
3)Missiles: Mig-23ML has 4-6 R-60M and 0-2 R-24R (with IG); F-4S has 6 AIM-7F and 4AIM-9H (rear aspect); F/A-18C Early has 4-6 AIM-7P (with IG and DL) and 2-6 AIM-9L. F-4EJ Kai has 4 AIM-9L and 4 AIM-7F (slightly bugged, I reported that).
Suggestion: F-4EJ Kai is 0.3 BR higher than F-4S and have worse flight model and radar (in some parts, BR~12.0 and around plays mainly with SARH and HMD is very strong for F-4 airframe), but worse missiles (but has more SARH). F-4EJ Kai is 0.3 BR lower than F/A-18C Early that outclasses F-4 in everything. F-4EJ Kai is 0.6 BR higher than Mig-23ML, that worse in everything, but has it strong sides and can fight in team-vs-team fights almost at the same level. I think this is obvious that Gen4+ fighters on 13.0 is undefeatable for F-4EJ Kai and I didn’t write about it. So I suggest to give F-4EJ Kai 12.0 BR.
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“atgm 650 Pen”
you’re looking at an ATGM’s effectiveness solely from its penetration value, its an ITOW, for anyone who has any experience using it then they’d know how blissfully ignorant your statement is.
“They’re pretty much identical, bar the lack of smoke grenades”
even an uninformed individual whose never dipped their toes in armored vehicles can differentiate the two. A closer comparison to the begleit would be the BMP-3/BMD-4 series of vehicles, comparing it to the 2S38 of all things is quite farfetched.
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I know he is i am have like 60% or more win rate.
But 70% or more of the time is gonna go againts t34 and m26. Even tiger 2
why is the ej kai 12.3 anyway like I dont know a single time I died to it
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it’s there to show that the vehicle can perform exceptionally well even at higher BR but I still think it should be lower
any kind of sabot
B-66B (9.0 in ARB and 8.7 in GRB) → (8.7/8.3 in ARB and 8.3 in GRB).
That plane is simply unplayable in every game mode right now. Playing half of the time on 10.0 in ARB gives him no chance to get bombs on target due to lack of speed, countermeasures and agility. In GRB it sees early missile-SPAA with also no chance to survive. On 8.7/8.3 in ARB it will have chances due to speed (Yak-28B with gun and bigger speed placed on the same BR right now) in 1 round of bombing. In GRB it will take place of Canberras after BR-change and will be a target for radar-SPAA that will counter it.
Lmao. You’ve only played the BMP-3, Bradley (8.3), and the Beglit.
I have played a lot more of these vehicles, and even your own stats confirm what I was saying, the Beglit preforms far better than the BMDs/BMPs. It is closer in line with a 2s38.
Just admit it bro, you got caught lying
Falcon (8.3) → 7.7/7.3 in GRB.
It will be worse than any SPAA on 8.3 with no radar, slower rate of fire and slower top speed/acceleration. USSR has ZSU-37-2 with radar and bigger penetration on 7.7 and Falcon (without APHE-I ammo and radar) will be on 8.3! It will have no sense on 8.3 at all, so if you decide to take APHE-I ammo it’s necessary to lower its BR.
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