Air RB. Su-25SM3. 12.3 > 11.7. When you guys updated to game to allow difference in BR between ground and air, you guys still have some planes especially at jet tier being higher than their predecessor for no reason. This is one of them. In terms of AIR RB, the plane is straight up worse than the Su-25T. It has 2 less air to air missiles. It has no passive IRCM (which make the Su-25T invincible against IR since you can’t launch from the rear while frontal launches against any player with eyes will be countered by flares). Please make it the same BR as the Su-25T as a sidegrade.
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lmfao no fuck off, just because you have your stupid overpowered tank does not mean 7.7s should have to get regularly farmed by it
KF41 should stay at 10,7 and eventually move to 11,0 next BR changes. Problem of this vehicle is that it doesnt have a lineup (im not uptiering my 10,3 because of 1 vehicle) and at 11,3, it sucks. Just give this a try please.
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Imagine how bad that would be with a 25mm bushmaster cannon at the same BR
You mean the one that blocks half your frontal depression angles?
why is the T-129 going up in BR? its already pretty bad at its current BR
however if it got an actual RWR as it did in real life i wouldnt be complaining now. it used to have one in the past im sure too
Vehicle: Su-27
Gamemode: Air RB
BR Change: 13.0 ----> 13.3
Reason: 6x R-27ER’s with PD and TWS radar + 4x R-73 with thrust vectoring alongside HMD is way too strong for that BR. Even the F-15A at that BR have much inferior and only 4x Sparrows but has no TWS for easy target selection and has 4x 9M’s but without HDM, making in less effective in dogfights. Su-27 does have inferior flight model but the R-73’s somewhat counter that, if additional buff is needed then it should be towards it’s flight model not BR.
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Air realistic, F8U-2. 10.0 > 10.3
Basically a slightly worse F-8E that currenlty dunks on 9.0 subsonic aircraft and flareless supersonic 9.3s while being able outrun them (excluding F-104 A and C) and flaring what little early missiles they have.
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I AGREE! ATTACK THE D POINT!
Average F8U-2 player:
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Ground Realistic
Object 279
9.0 → 9.3
It is are extremly powerful for its BR with its stabilized 130mm autoloaded cannon, that is capable of firing APHE. The Object 279 is nearly impossible to kill for a lot of tanks even around its own BR or a bit higher, which means that it just shrugs off the enemy shell and near instantly turns onto the enemy and is able to oneshot them. At the same time, since there is an overall BR increase for decompression from around 9.0+, it would make sense to also move this vehicle up, since it is one of the most powerful 9.0 vehicles in the game.
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Air/Ground realistic battles, AH-64A Peten, 11.3 > 11.7
This is the worst of the Apaches available to the Israeli helicopter tree.
It has no MAW and half the countermeasures. In my opinion it could stay at 11.3, since keeping it at the same BR as the other Israeli Apaches doesn’t really encourage using this version over the others.
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GRB, M113A1 (TOW) (China, Italy, Israel). 8.3 > 8.0.
Currently these vehicles, which are merely a missile tube on a simple tracked platform, are the same BR as fully fledged IFVs like the Bradley and Warrior. Let me list what these two have above the post’s subjects: proper APDS firing autocannon, better moblity (both forwards and in reverse), better armor (do not die to .5 cals and they are not overpressured by artillery landing a few meters away), gen 1 (or even 3!) thermals, stabilisers or very fast aiming speeds, fully traversible turrets (M113A1’s have a limited firing arc), scouting and drones
What do M113’s have in comparison? 200mm more penetration on their missiles against the Bradley or better depression against the Warrior (which actually has BETTER missiles!). This performance gap is just unnecessarily large. And that was even before the TOW guidance change which was a massive nerf for this vehicle - a reduction in BR should bring justice to it.
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Ground realistic, F111C 11.7 > 10.3
Reason: The loadout is pitiful compared to other aircraft at and lower br like the AMX, Jaguar and
Super etendard . F111C can carry 4 GBUs with gen 1 thermal pod but with no gun or missiles. You can see its comparable with the buccaneer S.2B. F111C get thermals, 4 GBU’s faster and more countermeasures, But buccaneer gets 3 TV atgms and 4 1000lb bombs. So the F111C is just a side grade for the buccaneer hence it’s br should decrease
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I wholeheartedly disagree with the Air RB changes from BRs 10.0 upwards. It looks like it’s just the top tier fox3-capable jets causing problems for ones without fox3s, so please move those up an additional 0.3BR instead of erasing all of your decompression progress from the previous changes where you lifted the ceiling by 0.7BR. Air RB became much healthier for the decompression, please don’t ruin that.
I do like the changes in the 9.X BR range for the most part. Getting some decompression on the supersonic strikers is nice to see.
I’d like to suggest the F-104A/C in the US and Chinese trees go from 9.0 → 9.7/10.0 because despite their manoeuvrability nerfs, they’re still extremely capable seeing as manoeuvrability was never their strength. They’re untouchable to virtually everything at or below 9.7 and are still very potent in full uptiers, let alone downtiers.
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air RB: kfir canard 11.3 → 11.0
reason: only 2 9Gs and a 36 countermeasures, planes like the j7E have better weaponry and countermesures at lower br
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its in the american tree to i have it.
ARB, Ki-94-II. 6.0 > 5.7
As it currently stands the Ki-94 is an overtiered mess of an aircraft thats almost unplayable its not only slower than every other 6.0 fighter or interceptor, but also has far worse maneuverability than all of them and worse climbrate than most.
The Ki-94 has no place being 6.0 and should be moved to 5.7, at the very least the Ki-94 should be renamed to an interceptor and recieve an airspawn.
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Almost like Germany has too many similar tanks
It cannot oneshot when it keeps being negated by volumetric.
IMO, Block 10 is really fine at its BR because it is literally lightest F-16s entier the game and Netz will have same BR.
Japanese F-16 is pretty hard to balance because airframe is block 10 but, having sparrows.