Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

F-4F

11.0 (ARB) → 10.7 (ARB)

It is in not superior to other aircraft already placed at 10.7 or 10.3. The playstyle is similar and there is no reason to be at the same Br as F-4EJ which has four AIM-7E.

F-4F is borderline unplayable and while similar to other Phantoms it is lacking the radar guided missiles which justifies a lowet Br.

to be fair it has paper armor less than the leopard 1 plus at higher brs it wouldnt be as good as it is theres too much compressed BRs what gaijin should do is raise max br for ground to 14.0 and un compress everything making balancing easier

hmm what should i believe, 1 random internet site or the fkn manual

also technically able to produce isnt the same as delivering that to the tracks

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their dominance is still there, Su-30/34s still dominate the ground and can hold their own in the skies
(don’t tell me the IRIS-T is a good counter, it’s the easiest thing to kill ever)

who knows where did he get that manual
i already searched everywhere and i didn’t see any public military website where’s the King Tiger’s manual

did u know that the actual german irl f4f later had 9L´s and aim7´s?

as far as i know germany didnt have any aim-7

i got it from the german archives

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/direktlink/60c5ada3-8ddc-4211-a2e5-f33db823bd1d/

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war thunder is about whats written on the papers, do you see tanks breaking down all the time? no.

the modernization program included the aim7´s (IF i remember correctly)

honestly, if it says 38km/h on roads in the manual, then it should be that speed on roads ingame as well, but ik gaijin won’t change that

even the manual states true engine power vs usable engine power…

Germany lost most of their fake tonks

i dont think germany ever had aim-7s at all, i think you are thinking of aim-120s

i looked at the bug reports and they seem to have more in depth testing data than the manual that just says it is 38kph

38kph is probably in the most ideal conditions and wasnt able to be achived in actual combat

i have no idea if it had apfsds but 9.0 would be kinda mid for it it can get killed by one shot from a auto cannon 8.7 sounds better if u have to move it up

That’s how it used to be as far as i remember it when it was 10.7.

yeah you might be correct. BUT the aim9L´s were there for the f4f late+ it had 6 agm65B

that’s arcade, most players don’t care about that. Still interesting that the harrier goes up but not others. Keep in mind the viggen has a dogshit airframe with the same level RWR as you’d see from a MiG-21MF at 10.3

Type 90 should stay 11.3 because it has no armor it shouldnt be the same br as the tkx p

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