Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

I mean it will still face 13.7. It will also face 13.0 where it isnt even that good. There is basicaly 0 upgrades to the m4k over the m2k besides 4 extra magic2s which becomes kinda outdated since at 13.0 you will be having long range jousts.

Its good when u dont face top tier u need to stick to the deck and the magics 2 are not outdated at all
Ppl wrent expecting it too much cuz its fox 3 meta so u get plenty of side aspect shots
Also they are great in head ons as well

I agree with everything u said besides this one. They have a very long fuse time of 1.8 seconds. If you fire them from too far in a headon it will get flared and if you fire too late it will just not explode. What I mean by magic2s being outdated is that fox1s/fox3s take the center stage in 13.0 and above. You will not get into alot of dogfights or furballs since most fighting is done long range. And the the 530d isnt the best fox1

I didnt noticed a problem in the fuze and i did found the irccm is great at head ons unlike the r73
I lunch it from 1.3 km and its great especially at big jets
And u do have furrballs
Df is more rare tho but if u do get one its probably a win

I do believe it :)
There is a ton of different vehicles with different playstyles. Everybody has a different playstyle therefore different vehicles suit us. For me ST-A1 and ST-A2 are great vehicles. For somebody else they can be lackluster.

Who has the full picture then ?
I’m certain I’d trust data from 70-80m battles more than some random forum malders’ opinions.

Not until players magically start performing much better all of a sudden.

If something is undertiered it will naturally have better than average stats so going up in BR is inevitable. I think your judgement is clouded from certain skill issues.

Mode: Ground Realistic (RB).

Leave the 6.7 German lineup as it is.

Reasoning: the game is more and more defined by mobility and CAS. This lack of variety is already lamentable, and demonstrated by the fact that light vehicles keep going up in BR.

Therefore, to simultaneously lose a light vehicle and receive a 25% top speed reduction to three vehicles is a crippling blow to the German 6.7 lineup.

The SPz is not very good, so it going up baffles me - especially in relation to other similar vehicles that are staying put, like the Ontos. It’s the second most bizarre decision of this BR revision for me (first place goes to moving the M-51 to 6.3).

As mediocre as the SPz is - chiefly because ironically it lacks mobility - at least it’s something. Without it, the only option left is the LeK, and it’s a tall order to ask that to carry the lineup in uptiers, especially when stock and armed only with APCR.

And now we come to the Tigers and the Jagdtigers. The mobility nerf will make them even more fodder for CAS than they already are. It will also make it harder for them to influence the match by capping, decapping, covering flanks or repositioning after kills.

So how will you play them? You’ll just camp. You’ll stay close to spawn, try and get a few initial kills long range, and then you’ll wait for the inevitable revenge bomb. In short, the “passive” SPG type playstyle that Gaijin has been trying to disincentivise by turning every map into a knife fight contest. So if camping is not the intended use, what’s left?

All of this in a lineup with no mediums, no dedicated SPAA, and a huge influx of new players due to its popularity… It’s a recipe for disaster.

I won’t get into the technical discussion on the engine, as I think that’s missing the point. To me fun is more important than realism, which is why I accept the Radkampfwagen being able to move its turret, Japan having the Ho-Ri, the Yak 9s having APHE, or the Sturmtigers having a magical internal and invisible autoloader. But this is where we draw the line? Reliability mods have to take priority over fun?

Tbh, the Tiger IIs are a little too strong at the moment, as individual vehicles. But the lineup around them is inflexible - nobody could ever accuse the Jagdtiger or the SPz of being match carriers. With the nerfs and the SPz going up, it will become an insufferable lineup to play, and when the stats plummet the headaches will begin, because none of those three vehicles can conceivably go down in BR, and reload buffs would not give them the ability to get to the objective before the first engagement is already over. An unnecessary and self inflicted blind alley that’s best avoided altogether right now than rued later.

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The SEPv2 isn’t even the best Abrams in the US tree, so why should it be a higher BR than the better SEPv1?

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any chances we are getting F-16I this update??

Vehicle: Haruna,Kirishima,Kongó
Mode: all
Rank: all to V or VI

Reason: as of righ now only the Kongó sits at Rank VI while its sister ships Haruna and Kirishima are Rank V for no reason and sharing the same BR.
Therfore i propose that either Kongó moves to Rank V with a RP reduction or its sister ships move to Rank VI so all of them are in line.

This just Bugs me that their Rank is not the same despite beeing basiclly the same Ships since either option could help with the Naval grind for Japan in Form of a RP reduction or less ships needed for Rank VII if you got one of the event ships.

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Vehicle: AMX-30 Super
Mode: Ground Simulator Battles
Bracket: 10_2 → 9_2

AMX-30 Super was the only stablized MBT that France had in this bracket of ground simulator battles, leaving AMX-30B2 and AMX-30B2 BRENUS only MBT options available to France, and both of them lack stablizers while every other MBT in this bracket has stablizer.

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Vehicle: AMX-32 (105)
Mode: Ground Simulator Battles
Bracket: 10_2 → 9_2

As per my previous post, France lacks any kind of stablized tank at this bracket, while every other tank of this bracket has a stablizer. AMX-32 (105) would be a good addition to France for this bracket alongside AMX-30 Super, keeping the theme of NATO having 105 cannons in this bracket (With the exception being Chieftains Mk. 5).

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to what reason make you believe j7d=21bis=11.0

J7d is too good at 10.7 so it should go up. Its just as shrimple as that

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You have no ground to stand on with your fox, scimitar and xm 800 opinions lol. You were kicking and screaming trying to get the fox up to 8.0+

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Whats wrong with pheonix?

I get hits every game… using the f14a, even in full uptiers

Super AMX30 may also be time to change, the 9.3 defense is too weak, and the APFSDS is only 361mm wearing, and the aftereffect is not very good, in the case of BR10.3, it can’t be played, and the weakness can’t kill people because of the aftereffect.
At the same time, the Mirage F1C200 is not too reliable as an open-line aircraft, and may be able to add something like incendiary bombs or improve air combat performance, at least a better aircraft as a gift package

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Slow and easy to avoid if you have a decent RWR and are not AFK.