Mode: ASB
Vehicle: Ju 288C
BR Change: 6.0 > 6.7
Extremely fast frontline bomber with payload and defensive armament rivaling strategic bombers, while also being able to soak up way more damage than heavy strategic bombers
10 Likes
Mode: ARB
Vehicle: Kurnass 2000
BR change: 12.3–>11.7
It’s an F4E with 6 Python 3 missiles and no radar missiles. How ANYONE can justify the Kurnass 2000 sitting at the same battle rating as the F-18A or F4EJ Kai is ridiculous.
Hence, I am suggesting it moves down to 11.7
11 Likes
Mode: GRB
Vehicle: Yak 9K.
BR Change: 4.3 to 5.7.
Reasons: This plane is insane good combination of fighter flight model plus 45 mm gun is very powerfull for CAS . Since the addition of full APHE belt is extremly good and much better than any other plane in his BR range.
14 Likes
(ARB), F-104G (China), 10.7 → 10.3 at least, 10.0 at max
At 10.3 we can find F-104J with 6 AIM-9P, while F-104G has only 4 AIM-9J. So, this plane being higher than F-104J is absolute nonsense. At 10.0 we can find F-1 with 4 AIM-9P. F-104G is faster than F-1, but it also has much worse maneurability, so it can be a trade off. All these planes don’t have flares.
(ARB), F-16AM, F-16A OCU, 13.7 → 13.3
F-16A MLU is going to 13.3 even with AIM-120. Compared to it, F-16AM and F-16A OCU have AIM-9M and HMS for them - which is advance. But at this BR IR missiles are not main weapon. And such advance is not a reason to be at higher BR. Additionally, F-16A OCU has less countermeasures than other F-16s (45 vs at least 60 or even 120).
5 Likes
Mode: GRB
Vehicle: Magach 5
BR change: 8.0 to 8.3.
Reasons: Basically is a better German M48A2 but with lower BR. So is a nosense a tank with acces to reactive armor had a lower BR than exactly the same tank without this extra armor.
3 Likes
It gets 14 missiles, 12 of which are the best mid range ARH, and then 2 r73’s which have some of the most BS tracking (don’t get me wrong fun tho) and the jet easily can hold its own way more than the f15 can…
1 Like
Vehicle: MiG-27M
BR change: 11.0 to 10.7 GROUND
The MiG-27M needs to be lowered to 10.7 in GRB even more urgently than the Su-25BM. When carrying the Kh-29T, it completely loses the ability to equip air-to-air missiles, and it also lacks the R-73, as well as CAS options like the S-13 and S-25 rockets. Its supersonic airframe also performs poorly in actual flight.
3 Likes
Mode: ARB
Vehicle: F-4J(unk) UK
BR change: 12.0–>11.7/11.3
The rank 7 premium so bad it was removed… (or at least I like to think so)
It’s the worst of both worlds- the british missile kit, without the Spey engines found on the FG.1 and FGR.2
Also, lacks the HMD found on the F-4J in the US tree.
7 Likes
I meant Aced* sorry. I edited it.
Still, having myself 3 different 2A4 Aced and every 2A4 in game plus MSC, I would still consider them better platforms than MSC. A situation in which you lose 2 crew members in the MSC would end in a death, while in a 2A4 would end in having a reload penalty.
I think the reasoning here is that most people play un-Aced Leopards, and most French players are much better than the average 2A4 player, giving Gaijin the metrics that would make them make this decision.
Do you really believe MSC should be one jump below Type 90 though?
2 Likes
Mode: ASB
Vehicle: Sea Vixen
BR Change: 8.3 > 9.0
Extremely fast “support fighter” with 4 Red Top missiles, while it has no guns it can easily outrun and outclimb any opponent with its amazing thrust and choose when and what to fight
4 Likes
Mode: GRB
Vehicle: Nashorn Tank Destroyer.
BR Change: 5.3 to 5.0
Reasons: Yes, a very capable gun but thats is all good. Movility is mediocre, very poor armor and suvivability, lack of a turret even his machineguns are very limited and in the most of the cases are useless.
3 Likes
Mode: GRB
Vehicle: Panzer IV H.
BR Change: 3.7 to 4.0 and move to Rank III.
Reasons: Simple, is very good for 2.7 tanks. and is more needed in rank 3 so whit this changes all wins.
9 Likes
Mode: Air Realistic
Vehicle: Shenyang F-5
Change: 9.3 → 9.0
Reasoning: All other models of mig-17 with afterburner sit at the equivalent BR of the non-afterburning one, so the Shenyang should sit at the same BR as the mig-17AS since they are both armed with missiles. The only difference here is that the Shenyang retains its 37mm cannon but that cannot mean it has to sit a whole BR step higher putting it on the same level as planes like the Ariete, MiG-19 etc.
It just doesn’t have the capability to compete in the VERY frequent (i counted, ~60%) uptiers to 10.3 since its flight characteristics make defeating all aspect missiles nearly impossible, meaning your only defence are your own missiles since you don’t even get access to any rockets! This is compounded by the fact that its fighting style requires it to drag the opponent and itself down to lower speed ranges where it can play out its superb maneuverability, making itself extremely vulnerable to missiles of all kind. Its performance is a lot more comparable to a CL-13B or other 9.0 subsonic fighters and that’s where it belongs in the current meta.
9 Likes
MODE: ARB
Vehicle: P-51H-5
BR change: 6.3-- 6.7
Argueably on par with the 6.7 Spitfires, and very few 5.3s can even touch the thing.
Overall very strong prop at its current BR
14 Likes
Aircraft: F-16A-OCU
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
BR change: 13.7 → 13.0
Based on the already approved bug report , two corrections should be implemented: the removal of the AIM-120 from the available armaments and a change to the correct radar system. It is our understanding that the BR will be adjusted to 13.0 accordingly.
8 Likes
Mode: Ground Arcade Battles
Vehicle: R3 T106 FA
BR Change: 8.0->7.3
Reasoning: Arcade Battles makes your tank marker visible once you’re in range of an enemy vehicle,and Attacker/Bomber air events makes you always visible. With all of this, fighting modern stabilised tanks at 8.3 to 9.0 with an unstabilised car only because it is small,fast and has 2 Recoilless cannons makes absolutely no sense and will make it not usable at all.
3 Likes
Mode: Air Simulator Battles
Vehicle: SU-25T, SU-25SM3
BR Change - 11.7 > 11.3 or 11.0
Reasoning:
Both of these aircraft have become useless at their BR in air simulator as when they are the bottom bracket they are easily countered by any fighter and whenever they are at the top bracket at 11.7 there are frankly better options for both A2G and A2A at the same BR with the A10C which gets a HMD with built in IFF, 4x AIM-9M’s which can be slaved to the HMD, GBU-39’s which can completely wipe a whole skirmish in one pass whilst the SM3 and T have to keep on station much longer to achieve results even close.
Not to mention the A10C now has a targeting pod with much better zoom and thermals which allow it to single out targets in those skirmishes or convoys much easier compared to both the SM3 and T.
1 Like
Mode: GRB
Vehicle: Tiger 2 P (Swedish one included)
BR change: 6.7 to 6.3.
Reasons: Weaker than H version but with the same BR. Is a nosense put both in the same BR specially now after the movility nerf. This tank is not competitive at 6.7 any more.
12 Likes
Mode: ASB
Vehicle: Ariete
BR Change: 9.0 > 9.7
Extremely good energy retention, top speed, acceleration and maneuverability, even outclasses almost any 9.3 jet
6 Likes
Remove the KH-38MT from the SM3 and we could talk about it…
1 Like