I would re-think my stance on not changing the br for all these vehicles if 12.0br becomes 13.0 then we can add a new class and create an extra br. bracket of vehicles to war thunder and ags, 2s38, bmps and bmds will then fight against opponents that are not too overpowering once up tiered. In this case most of the 10.7s will move up to 11.0 creating more space for newer vehicles to come in and fill the 9.7 to 10.7 br bracket.
The full hvap belt shouldbe back in urgent. terrible fire rpm makes it harder to shoot aircraft than skink.
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Mephisto (Ground RB): Move from 8.7 to 9.0 but also give it HOT-3.
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ELC Bis: Change class from tank destroyer to light tank.
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Will the XM800T get its laser rangefinder with the BR raise?
Vehicle: F104S.ASA
Br change: 12.0>11.3
Its is well-know that the f104 is poor at higher tiers especially at 12.0 with Aspide-1A missiles at that tier with 9Ls which doesn’t help. Continuing on to that you need to sacrifice your gun to use the radar missile. It lacks a Pulse Doppler radar which every other 12.0 has. Compared the J8B which practically has the same kit with better maneuverability and at a lower BR. This is just a Over rated plane that is forgotten because no one plays it.
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Maybe to Light cruiser?
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I dont understand why the AGS is being moved up. The gun can’t pen any BR equivalent MBT, paper thin armor, with terrible thermals. It just has speed and even then its not great.
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DM33 is noticeably better than DM23, to the point of introducing larger weakspots on common enemies such as 80B, M1s and Leopards themselves.
AGS could get M900 and move to 12.0.
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Oops, corrected :))
I mean if you seriously think that the Jaguar IS should move down to 10.3 then that is a serious skill issue.
Vehicle: VT5
BR: Stay 11.0 with no change or 11.0→11.3 with change below.
Changes: Fix basic armor protection, add BTA4 or DTC02-105
Reason: Since there is no evidence to prove the level of VT5 protection, let’s look for a reference in the game, such as the TAM2IP, which weighs 33 tons. TAM2IP actually added a circle of composite armor skirts around it, which was 3 tons heavier than the original TAM. However, they achieved hull side KE 40mm, turret side KE 45mm, LFP to UFP KE 40-100MM, and turret front KE 100-300MM. VT5 does not have any additional armor on hull sides. instead of it, VT5 can reach 33 tons because it actual install NERA on turret, so the turret front protection should far better than TAM2IP, at least can’t be pened by 100mm BR412D.
Looking for a slightly heavier reference, the Super AMX30 weighs 36 tons and does not have any NERA. It can withstand LFP KE 100MM, UFP KE 200MM, turret front KE 50-100MM, hull side KE 45MM, hull side bottom KE 100MM, and Hull rear KE 30MM. Where else can a tank of this weight be penetrated by 12.7 hits?
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Vehicle: ZTZ99A, WZ1001LCT, VT4A1
BR: no changes
Other changes: add Spall liners, reload time 7.1s→6.7s.
I will send this until they get spall liners. 6.7s reload time is a balance consideration. worst survivability and firepower made those 3 MBTs lack of tactic value, the difference of mobility in toptier is not that much, that’s the conclusion I give after I played almost every nations.
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Pt.3 the MBT-2000 and VT5 going to 11.3 is extra bad.
I agree. The VT5 at the very least staying at 11.0 needs its -7 to -8 degrees of gun depression and it’s actual reload of 4.3 to 4.0 seconds if they want to move it up.
Vehicle: Ratel 90
BR: Stay 6.3 with no change
The Ratel 90 honestly feels useless outside of its HEAT rounds. The hull is tall and hard to hide, the engine block is massive with no easy weakspot for clean pens, and the sides can literally get shredded by .30 cal fire. Off-road it accelerates like a brick, and on forested uphill terrain it can’t even push past 30 kph. Overall, it just feels worse to play than the M41A1.
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+1