lol, lmao even. Get a grip. They’re better at any realistic distance than the 120.
The only realistic scenario the AIM-120 series is better is over 25kms, and even then, it’s absurd to overextend BVR engagements to that extent.
AIM-120s pull less Gs, have less AOA fin performance, less motor energy, and also, less drag. While the R-77-1 pulls better, is capable to do sharp turns with its AOA fin performance, and have a decent motor which puts it beyond most if not all missiles in energy performance by a hilarious rate.
That at the cost of the infamous drag argument all russian mains seem to cope eternally in an effort to gaslight gaijin into thinking a diametrically huge piece of metal with grilled fins will kinetically perform similar if not even better than a sharply designed missile.
this document is from 01.09.44 while the technical specifications i shared were from 18.09.44, so the technical specifications were made after the driver manual AND state it has more HP
Mode: Air Realistic, Air Simulator
Vehicle: Ki-87
BR: 5.7 (RB) or 6.0 (SB) → 5.0
Reasoning: The Ki-87 is slow for its BR at most altitudes, only being comparable in speed at very high altitudes - higher than any combat actually happens. It is additionally a very large and heavy aircraft, with relatively poor climb and maneuvering performance, even compared to aircraft a full BR below it. Even at 5.0 it would be worse than its competition, but it would be better than it currently is.
Maybe it is because the drag is too high. You can even read in Wikipedia that grid fins could have even less drag at supersonic speeds and subsonic speeds, with abysmal performance around Mach 1.0. aerodynamics dont care about your “muh grilled fins drag” pseudo hypothesis.
The whole maneuver argument falls apart with distances higher than 3 kilometers. An AIM-120 can pull just fine against +12G targets trying to notch at around 5km and above.
And thus, we end up with the same point, over and over: the AIM-120 is the better missile by having way better energy retention and more than enough pull. saying otherwise is either a cope, or a skill issue.
that still dosent change that the Tiger 2 was governed to 2500RPM
and i dont see how that source contradicts anything, engines produce more HP at higher RPMs
problem is that the Engine was limited to 2500RPM so that it survives for longer
this is from a different engine but the same still aplies:
why would you document that the engine produces 750 HP at 3000 RPM for the vehicle if it doesn’t actually run at 3000 RPM in the vehicle you make your specifications about? That is like saying your Car can do 200 kph at 10k RPM but you redline at 8k RPM
it’s not true, it has been debunked already. Gaijin has been already generous with the current numbers at the average speed the missile usually travels. You’re not getting AIM-120 levels of drag performance with the R-77s architecture.
Compromises must be made, unless you assign Gaijin’s development team a hefty budget to develop realistic wind physics. If you are millionaire, be our guest. If not, play shut.
because the engine could theortically handel that for short periods of time
it is not that it will redline at 2500 it was limited to increase the service life of those engines as germany had quite the recource problems towards the end of the war
also if we take your source as absolute truth the Tiger 2 will only have a single reverse gear
and do you see those values that are totally real world values, i also always measure my speed down to the tenth