ive played this plane through pretty much the entire USSR tech tree, most would disagree with this change, but atm the mig 23 at the BR of 11.7 isn’t good, it consistently get’s uptiered especially with the recent addition of the f/a 18c early, probable only 20% or less of your games are downtiered and with the rwr only having 4 directions, the radar being mediocre at best it struggles.
It consistently faces, mig 29’s, f16’s, f/a 18c early, f4s, mirage f1c’s, which all pretty much out class the mig 23
at it’s current br, if i was to go play the mig 29, 9 times out of 10 i would get the exact same matchmaker, which really shouldn’t b the case
Haha, no chance. Mig-23MLD probably should be 12.0 and Mig-23ML and MLA are some of the strongest 11.7s in game. Only way they go down in BR is if they loose R-60Ms and maybe also loose R-24T/Rs
Reasoning: The Type 87 rcv lacks of a stabilizer, lws/lr and thermal imaging device. It is really unfair to have an vehicle from Italy which obtains all of these at a br of 9.3 and a better reverse speed.
very much agree, but dont forget that vbci pt2 is additionally frontally 50cal proof.
Also the new french vbci at 9.3 has autotracking too on top of everything else -thermals.
id say go further, remove apfsds and move it down to 8.0.
magach 5 has 75 less hp to drive 2.1 more tons, also lacks a commander sight for some reason.
considering how germany is 2nd to france in amount of heat slingers at 7.7-8.7, and the fact that the era on the magach is basically useless, id say its br is fine.
Losing R-60Ms wouldn’t change much, since R-13s are arguably better. Without the R-60Ms, it will still be better than the 11.3 J-8B. They could only go down if they lose the R-24s in my opinion.
Well… Its a subosnic aircraft, but one of the fastest accelerating Subsonic aircrafts, so… it fiddly on that front.
It could get 6x Aim-9M, but Id fear that would push it too 12.7 and Id kinda prefer to save that as an “upgrade” for the GR9A.
For now though, I think we just need to continue fighting for various buffs for the Harriers in general. They are underperforming rather significantly.
you cant really compare it to the m36, which has a excellent mobility and a turret… with great gun handling too.
nashorn is too weak, clunky and bulky to really be that usefull in at any br. its basically a faster velocity faster reload dicker max with less he filler.
Gaijin just too trust the Air Force in naval battle, at least before 8.0, the bots will easily shoot down all of the aircraft, and there is nothing too OP before 8.0