Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2025

yes, but you can really deal with it even in 7.7, id say this is gaijin’s fault for giving 8.7 full downtiers almost every match, and should not blame 8.7 vehicles. t55s already kinda struggle in uptiers, being faced with much better opponents in terms of armour mobility and firepower, and making it 9.0 will really make it suck. They should instead fix the matchmaking, making it less prone to downtiers.

Mode: Air Realistic Battles

Vehicle: F-14A Early

Change: Add AIM-9L

Reasoning: At 12.7, all other aircraft with vastly superior flight performance, such as Mirage 2000, F-16, and MiG-29 feature the same battle rating with all aspect heatseeking missiles, and in some cases even IRCCM all aspect heatseeking missiles. Even at 12.3, we see aircraft like the F-16A with AIM-9Ls. The AIM-54 is too good to justify a reduction in BR to 12.3, however, this aircraft struggles at 12.7 with its RWR and extremely lackluster AIM-9Hs for 12.7. AIM-9Ls would be a good way to balance this airplane without compressing BRs.

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I’m not saying it’s bad or anything but it’s far from the best and still has no reason to be moved to 7.0 with no lineup

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You mean the planes with great survivability and 4 ARHs that pull 40G? Those planes? I’d rather be a very nimble R-Darter slinger than watch my lumbering Fakours miss a target doing a barrelroll.

Yeah but that’s a wrong use of the stats just like Gaijin is doing. It’s not because I have a brain that i’m better than a Tiger in any way.
The gun has no HE filler, even though it has good pen, and takes ages to aim as opposed to the said Tiger.
I already need to drive carefully, adjust my accelerations and braking while always listening to engines nearby… PLAYERS may be good, bu the tank is decent at most at its BR

The only good thing here is finally moving air grb to 13.0, everything else is completely useless… moving kurnass 2000 to 12.3 is stupid yet leaving the type 90 tanks at 11.3, they should have been moved to 11.7.

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AMX-13 going up is probably the worst change I’ve seen in years. It’s contemporaries are at lower BR, not higher ones.

I’m not even going to mention other things on the account that the snail would remember they exist and ruin them too.

Also AMX-40 at the same BR as the M60 AMBT is laughable

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if you think like this then why not just nerf every soviet vehicle? they all out armour most tanks at their br, in fact they are even more agile, yet no one complained about them.

Sorry, but I did not list any vehicle stats…
Do you want that?
The gun is fully compareable as is the post pen damage. if you want top see bad AP damage play the UK. A Uk 90mm AP shell deals less than 20% of the AMX M4s shells damage.

Again the AMX M4 is better than a Tiger II both in stats as well as in performance

just everything lol… armor/gun/mobility 279 only miss laser ranefinder but it is not so necessary

Oh dear i played the UK and I agree that their gun is probably the worst in game, but that’s no reason to up the French vehicles.

Yeah the M4 is probably better than a Tiger II, but they also don’t have the same role, but I was refering to the AMX 13 in my previous post

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8.0->7.3

they have equal if not same performance as other 7.3 planes

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Uk 90mm, unless you mean the ratel one which isnt british im not sure what you mean here

Im sorry but thats a skill issue on your end then, i have a good KD at 13.0 in my IRIAF and to call it the worst 13.0 is because people can’t accept the fact it can’t sealclub nearly as easily as it once could.

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Mode: Air Realistic Battles

Vehicle: F-14B

Change: Add AIM-9M and AIM-7P

Reasoning: At 13.0 battle rating, aircraft such as the F-15A, Su-27, MiG-29G, all feature all-aspect, IRCCM heatseeking missiles on superior airframes than the F-14B. I understand the justification for the battle rating is the F-14B’s possession of Fox-3 AIM-54 Phoenixes and technical improvements over the F-14A Early model, however, aircraft such as the F-4F at 13.0 also feature far better performing Fox-3s than the AIM-54 with IRCCM heatseeking missiles as well.

The AIM-9M was historically used on the F-14B, and the F-14B is also a much newer, more modern aircraft than some aircraft that also feature AIM-9Ms currently in the game, such as the F-15A. Additionally, the new AIM-7P was also used on the F-14B, and although this would add only a slight improvement over the M model, it would further make this aircraft worth using over the superior F-15A and Su-27 airframes, to name a few examples.

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This! When stock grinding the A-10C, I had so many matches that ended before I even saw a single enemy, it takes over 5-6 minutes to reach map center. It needs air spawn so bad. Really don’t know what is keeping Gaijin from doing it, the mechanic is already in the game and used by lower tier planes.

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So great it collected total of… 1 like.

Have I confused you with someone else? I was only talking about the M4 the entire time. The AMX 13 change is senseless in every way possible

Unusual request:

ALL MODES

Minor nations should have their statistics given a negative weighting applied throughout the trees. If French shermans or B-26s which are the same in every aspect to US counterparts for example, but have a 3 or 4% higher winrate basis, then the whole tree should be given a negative weighting of 3-4% applied to the tree throughout so we can stop dealing with Gaijin consistently over-tiering minor nation vehicles every single planned BR change.

Otherwise this systemic issue will not be fixed. This is a systemic issue to how the statistics are being read.

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20 pounder, which is the closest equivalent the UK had to a 90mm same as the german 88 and the russian 85. all similar enough in calibre to be compareable.