Tbh while i do believe the M1 should get a better round, the m774 is still good enough for the BR, got over 215 angle pen on a 5 second reload and a monster fast platform.
Just got the m1kvt to bolster my 10.7 lineup n im near.in a 2.0 kd with it
It appears that way because grinding to top tier in another tank tree takes extreme amount of time.
If you’re exposed to only one side of the vehicle (fighting/fighting in), it’s hard to make a proper argument.
What ? Ive got over half the trees in game at top tier or 11.7 man, ive over 3000 hours on the game over nearly 6 years.
I want the game objectively balanced. So people have to use their brains a little.
For example not roll around in a type90 farming 10.3s
Or stomping abiut in a t80UD in 9.3 matches.
Oh shock the m1a1 clickbait, hc and m1a2 are stupidely good as well yet somehow sit lower than the arietes at 12.0 or the leopard 2a5 and subsequently a6.
Or how china has the ztz99s at 11.0 and they absolutely wreck house?
People on these topics just cry that their specific fav tank or plane should move down.
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if grinding to top tier in trees didn’t take that much time, you would see much more balanced feedback, is what I’m saying.
How would you know if T-80BVM is really that OP or over hyped, if you dont have it, and getting to the particular tank takes months if not years of extreme grinding? Let’s say, maybe 10k RP a day, few rounds…you can see how long it takes.
Now imagine this of someone without premium vehicles and account.
Then id suggest getting better.
I made what, 100k rp yesterday in about 7 games.
What does the grind havw to do with people demanding their tank specifically id OP?
Especially a premium tank… which by all intemts and purposes should be worse than a TT counterpart.
It doesnt take that much time though.
Ive got i think 5 or 6 nations for ground top tier and 5 for air.
Its.not some big deal realistically, struggling with the grinds no excuse for stuff to be unbalanced.
Btw if it was balanced then the grind would be easier
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the average player gets 0.8 kills per spawn according to statshark. No data on how many times they spawn, but I guess it is within 1000-4000 RP range
Premium tanks still fight other vehicles (tech tree/prem) that are not owned by the suggesting player, so people can still make suggestions without being on both side of shooting/being shot at.
m60AMBT
10.0 to 10.3 GRB
It outperforms the Sabra in every aspect: autocannon, mobility, and auxiliary equipment. Gaijin, you can’t just ignore the AMBT because it makes players spend more Silver Lions on crates and allows you to rake in massive transaction fees from the exchange.
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And think the strv 103 c is going at 9.0 for no reason
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This adjustment has completely destroyed the last remaining purpose of the Israeli tech tree. The only two BR that offered a playable experience – 9.7 and 11.3 – were completely ruined by the changes to the Sabra, Merkava 2D, and Kurnass 2000. Now, the only meaning of researching the Israeli tech tree is to announce to other players that you have severe intellectual disabilities.
Yea it is and its a big diffrance and i played both t55 was op
Mode: Realistic Battles
Vehicle: F-4F Early
BR: 10.7 → 10.0
Reason: It has no countermeasures at a BR where it regularly faces all aspect IR missiles, including long range IRs like the R-24T, as well as IRCCM missiles like the R-73 and AIM-9M and competent SARH missiles like the R-24R and AIM-7E-2.
All the while it is nothing more than a slight upgrade over the F-4C with wing slats and slightly better IRs, meanwhile losing its Sparrows.
This should not constitute a .7 increase over the F-4C.
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If you play full matches and not ODL youll earn substantially more RP.
What does this even mean?
Im referencing the fact that now adays we get premiums that are miles better than their TT counterparts.
Clearest example recently?
CLOVIS VS DF105
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The T55AM1 and AMD1 are not OP tanks, they aren’t bad tanks at all. But to sit and act like they’re mega OP and desrve to sit at a BR with the objectively better tanks like T62M1.
XM803
M60A3 TTS
Shot kal gimel
STRV 104s
etc etc shows that you don’t want balance.
As ive said god knows how many times GRB needs proper decompression, moving top tier up to 13.0 ish and spacing out the ground vehicles so there isnt such a crushing area at 8.3 to 11.3
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Yeah these BR changes are random as hell
TKX (P) to 11.7 but type 90 stays at 11.3
Merkava mk1B and 2b to 9.7 but not the 9.3 gal batash or megachs that are slightly slower but better optics.
T55A going to 8.7 and the the AM1 and AMD1 to 9.0 (same as the T62M1) and sitting with the aformentioned tanks.
The Type 81 SPAA going to 11.7 while it has no business even being 11.3 .
Shir 2 getting 10.0 BR but still as an anemic 9.0 dart, facing off against 11.0s with 192 angle pen is wild.
Amx40 hitting 10.0 thus killing the 9.7 lineup with vextra, however they could add the correct dart to vextra and make it 10.0 as well.
yet no movement on stuff like the turm III, CLOVIS, or chieftains etc. both GRB and ARB are drowning in compression and just moving it stuff up not increasing hte BR cap just crushes it all together.
The T55A for example, is now gonna be 8.7!?
like why ,it got a T54 hull, a slower than average turret rotation speed, a poor reload similar to that of the 120mm chieftain, infact believe theyre the same aced.
Yet will now sit at the same BR as a chieftain?
(off topic)
They could fix stuff like L15A5 and make it the correct penetration values as per the chieftain book on it, they could give the mk5 its LRF and correct ammo, engines and armours then make them 9.0 tanks.
Its ridiculous the compressions getting actively worse.
Oh but no movement on the M1A1 at 11.3, or the M1A2 to 12.0
Or making leopard 2PL 11.3 etc
Only movement in the minor nations, most of frances lower BRs are useless now
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He fails to acknowledge many cons USSR tanks have for some weird reason.
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TBH complete forgot about this somehow
I did actually have a +1KD at some point but it got ruined bc I was hitting ground targets for a wager and I didn’t really care about get shot down,
I’m not if you actually read what I was saying properly you would notice I also put you might be playing it wrong which it appears you might be
Just because the matchmaker isn’t friendly right now doesn’t mean you should be facing planes like the Jaguar GR1 (which has 2 9Gs and is worse on every meteric) or the A-5C where you only have around 12 countermeasures and is also worse by every meteric. Against the 13.0 planes, you have the tools to fight back by leaning on your missiles and 240 countermeasures.
And as much as I hate the 530F, they’re still missiles that have a really good FM for the br (better than the R-24). Both the R-60M and 530F are really easy to defeat and the 530F doesn’t actually give people a launch warning, all they know is that they’re being tracked by someone.
So to boil it down comparing the two, the F1C gets 2 IRCCM missiles that are better in every way minus warhead arming time and are easily worth 4 R-60Ms (to be frank you shouldn’t be using any IR missile head-on except for the funny fella called the R-73. To get a guaranteed head-on kill with the R-60M you gotta launch it at about 400m and at that point you have a gun to do the job), 2 kinda crappy radar missiles + funny chode missile, a radar that doesn’t make you want to pull your hair out, about 20 - 40 kph slower top speed, a mid FM, and a lifetime supply of countermeasures which is a big boon since you can use them to focus on less things in the chaos that is 16 v 16, gives you the capital to fly higher to actually use your radar missiles, as well as pre-flaring against the IRCCM carriers above you in br.
Right above it is the Bison which has a marginally worse FM but has HMD and is honestly a perfect in-between for the F1C and 2000 CS-5 while the CS-4 only gets about 34 single-pop countermeasures that shoot out right below you which has screwed me over a quite a few times (give or take by 2 I can’t remember rn).
Another thing to think about with the MLD is that sure it has good flight performance, but not when the wings are swept in. This results in the F1C having better flight performance around/above mach which is another good pro since staying fast is pretty important in missile spam world. Being slow usually means you get 3rd partied and for the late game all it takes is the MLD being caught side or rear aspect within roughly 1.4km to get smacked by a Magic 2.
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“Slightly worse” is a massive understatement my man, you go from Abrams/Leopard 2 level mobility with the standard U to something more like a T-72B with the T-80UD.
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Also I said consistently and consistent≠every time