From my experience, the MLD, R 60M and R24R perform much better than the Mirage with its armament. If you throw the R60 from 1/1.25 kilometers at the right angle in the FRONTAL PROJECTION, the missile will not go to defense, and since its delay is minimal, it is the only one on this Br that is capable of doing so. Also, the MLD does not meet 13.0. With better radar weapons, more thermal missiles (which you need to be able to use), a better radiation warning system. It is not inferior in maneuverability and even in speed. If I wrote something incorrectly or it is unclear - it is the translator, I apologize
when will the T-72B3 combat rating be reduced?
the tank is objectively bad at its 11.7, it has neither reverse nor speed, and also a reload of 7.1 seconds, when all the Abrams and Leopards of its BR have all this, and they also have a reload of 5-6 seconds, I am not asking to reduce the T-72B3 to a combat rating of 11.0 or lower, give it at least 11.3, + in addition, the USSR does not have a single tank in this BR, but there are aircraft, for example, the Su-25T, or Su-24M, I hope for your feedback
The AMX-13 and AMX M4 should not be moved up to 7.0. The combat effectiveness of the AMX-13 is significantly lower compared to all other tanks at 7.0, especially in terms of penetration—it can’t even penetrate any part of the Tiger II’s frontal armor. Additionally, the AMX-13 only has 6° of gun depression. Instead, it’s the German 6.7 lineup that truly deserves a BR increase, as every tank in that lineup outperforms others at the same battle rating by a wide margin.
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Yea but in wt when u lunch from close range it dont have the time to go up and dowm and it come in lke 30° insted of 45°
GER
TigerII(H)
6.7→7.0
The Tiger II (H) has significantly smaller weak spots compared to the Tiger II (P), yet both tanks share the exact same battle rating, which is unreasonable. The Tiger II (H) has exceptionally strong armor and firepower for its BR, with very small and hard-to-hit weak points. Compared to other tanks at the same BR, it has much higher combat effectiveness. Similarly, the Ferdinand and Jagdtiger tank destroyers suffer from the same issue and should also be moved up to 7.0.
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Actually ivan is not entirely wrong, raising that tank by br makes no sense, moreover raising it to 9.0 would no longer have a preselection with other tanks of the same br
Ferdinand is already a pile of hot garbage, leave that poor thing alone. Jagdtiger is also fine, sure it is quite well armored, but reloads ages and is slow as hell.
2h could actually go up to 7.0, but definitely not due to armor, it’s actually one of the rather bad things about this tank
AMX 13, AMX M4, and AMX 40 nerfs are stupid and can’t possibly have a justification for them. Once again people who can read maps and shoot side armor prove to be too much for the community at large to handle. Tanks can’t be pay to win if your opponent can still flank you.
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This is indeed a issue, but most tanks at the same BR can’t penetrate them from the front . On top of that, many maps don’t even allow for effective flanking maneuvers.
Flame has a 3 year old bug report for them. Should be about 2km. Also a 3 year old bug report for all-aspect, but that won’t get added.
But yeah, at the moment, I never fire them passed 800m, the hard range limit sucks.
I’ve also got a year old report for them basically not working below 400m
I’ve got the main 2 that need fixing attached to this suggestion
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How can you not pen them frontally? I mean i could understand Jagdtiger, you need quite a bit of practice and 200 or more pen to take it out via lower plate and you can’t really pen it anywhere else, but Ferdinand or Tiger 2h?
All you have to do to kill ferdinand very easly is fire at angled plates connecting frontal and side hull armor. It is a braindead weakspot which upon being hit takes out the driver and engine, often setting the tank on fire and killing MG gunner as well. You just need to repeatedly fire at that spot to kill him.
As for Tiger 2h with anything that has 200 pen or more which is quite common for this BR you just lolpen the entire turret. And even if you have less pen you can just shoot the commander’s hatch, it will take out the entire turret crew very easily
See i thought id seen that a while ago floating about.
essentially another piece of british tech thats incorreclty modelled.
Tried the fireflash recently BTW? the ones on the swift F7 theyre also completely broken.
On a slightly differnet topic, the Shir 2, wasnt it supposed to get upgraded optics, same as on CR1 mk1/mk2 and chieftain mk11?
cause in game it has the same as the mk10 chieftain I believe.
Many tanks at 6.7 have very low penetration, such as the T-44, M26, and AMX-13. They can only deal with heavy targets by flanking or disabling the gun barrel. In contrast, the Tiger II, Ferdinand, and Jagdtiger have extremely powerful firepower, making it very easy for them to destroy other 6.7 tanks, even heavy ones.
Yeah man seen recently people at 8.3 and up dont even bother to look at flanks 90 percent of the time then wonder why the enemy are behind them
Yeah, Hunter F6 and Harrier Gr1 would be 90% fine at 9.7 with fully functional SRAAMs
It’s the same as the CR1s just no TVD
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Ferdinand can be penned in the aformentiomed weakspot by every single one of the tanks you mentioned.
Tiger 2h can be penetrated into the commander’s hatch by every single one of them as well, besides amx-13 which can just simply blast through the turret.
Only Jagdtiger could be problematic, but then again, it’s the biggest and slowest of them all.
You shouldn’t expect to just simply blast through the heaviest mass produced tank in history with a medium tank frontally…
That’s actually quite reasonable. These three German tanks have a much higher margin for error compared to others. Most other tanks require significantly more skill to destroy them. That’s why I believe the Tiger II (H) and Jagdtiger should be moved up to 7.0. As for the Ferdinand, its placement at 6.7 is relatively balanced.
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The AMX-40 should not be placed at the same BR of 10.0 as the Leopard 2K due to its 10km/h slower forward speed and over 50km/h slower reverse speed.
In addition, Vextra105 ,Roland and Milan at BR9.7, increasing the BR of the AMX-40 means the deck collapses.
French aircraft up to BR10.0 are powerless in land combat due to lack of countermeasures.
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Feedback – M48A2 G A2 (8.3) vs Magach 5 (8.0): Makes no sense
Both tanks are basically identical:
Same gun (105mm L7/M68), same ammo (DM23), no stabilizer, same armor layout.
The Magach 5 has ERA Blazer, giving it ~250–300mm extra protection vs HEAT. Combined with its sloped 110mm plate, it can stop most HEAT-FS at this BR.
The M48A2 G A2 has no ERA, meaning it’s way more vulnerable.
Yes, the M48A2 G A2 is slightly lighter (47.8t vs 49.9t) and has a bit more engine power (825hp vs 750hp), but the difference is minimal and doesn’t justify a +0.3 BR.
Conclusion: The Magach 5 is flat-out better, yet sits at a lower BR. This seems like an oversight and should be re-evaluated.
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Jagdtiger at 7.0 would be just dead weight. It is already eaten alive by HEAT-FS and APDS in uptiers.
2h could maybe work around that with rotating turret and more flexible gun, but Jagdtiger won’t work any higher than 6.7
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