I mean, if the stats are showing those tanks having a lower win rate than other tanks…then statistically they aren’t better. Even when you don’t look at premiums like the KVT and Clickbait or the AIM squardon vehicle. The M1A2 isn’t performing better than say the Ariete or 2A7/6/5s.
We don’t really have data available to us on a granular level like the M829A2 does better than whatever the Ariete uses. We can just see win rates. And its been a well-known fact that top tier US has been one of the lowest performing (if not the worst) nation. So moving those tanks up doesn’t make sense. Im not saying they should go down in BR but they certainly don’t need to go up unless the 12.0 ceiling were to be raised to 13.0. Then they would just move their equivalent up. So…12.0-12.7.
As for the T55-AM1 and AMD1 both of them sit comfortably at 8.7 the composite armor on the AM1 does not do much for stopping enemy rounds whether it be HEATFS, APDS, or even early APFSDS. Even in a down tier they can still get penetrated by everything it sees because from my experience everything at 7.7 either has HEATFS or APDS. Both of these tanks will get destroyed in an uptier to 10.0 and make buying the premium not even worth it.
Vehicle: Kfir C.7
Gamemode: Air RB
Change: 12.0 > 11.7
Reason: Kfir C.7 can only have 4 IR missiles without IRCCM. This is far inferior to the attack power of aircraft with the same BR. It should also be noted that the Kfir C.7 can only have 36 CMs, which is not enough to compensate for its lack of offensive capability. Thus, the Kfir C.7 has few advantages as a BR 12.0 aircraft, and I propose to lower its BR.
Granted, I’ve never played the J21, but I’m fairly sure it does have a worse top speed due to the airframe. To be honest, just from having fought it before, it could probably stand to be lower than 6.7.
Vehicle: Stormer HVM
Gamemode: Ground RB
Change: 10.3 > 10.0
Reason: The missiles of the Stormer HVM are difficult to hit the jets because they must be hit directly by hand. Given that a similar vehicle, the French Roland, has a BR of 9.7, and given that the elevation angle of the Stormer HVM is superior to that of the French Roland, I think a BR of 10.0 for the Stormer HVM is appropriate.
Or they could just fix the Stormer HVM. It’s missing a lot from IFF+NCTR to the starstreaks themselves underperforming. Failing that it could also get LMMs
Leo 1 need to drop to 7.7 (it has by far the worst stats)
there’s a reason why it got uptiered from 7.3 to 8.0. it was crapping all over 6.3 tanks. even bringing it to 7.7 will bring the same issue, as no one runs 6.3 lineups, all proper lineups are at 6.7. Please, we don’t want that to happen again, it’ll create another mig15/f86 situation.
Wiesel 1a4 and Luchs are amongs the worst vehicles in warthunder
they’re basically XM800s without stabilizers. Please, we don’t want those rats running around at lower BRs. Wiesel literally got a laser range finder and thermals too. don’t be ridiculous.
The obj140 and the Turm III to 8.7
With the tanks running around at 8.7 (AM1 / AMD / RISEP) that’s just not a good idea. turm3 got an autoloader, yes, and it’s mobile. But that’s as much as it gets. Putting it on level with apfsds and lrf level. not to mention it’s not survivable at all. and for the obj140, are you serious? what business does it have at 8.7? does it have a good apfsds? does it have maybe a rangefinder? good armor maybe? it’s got what the american m60a1 got, and that’s where it should stay.
and please the OP T92 can go to 7.3, where also the RU251 is.
you’re funny. it’s basically a low profile german bulldog and it’s already uptiered. leave it where it is, the ru251 got a proper round and postpen to defend itself.
Vehicle: Chieftain Mk.3
Gamemode: Ground RB
Change: 8.7 > 8.3
Reason: Chieftain Mk.3 is too slow. It does not have enough armor to compensate for its slow speed. the Chietain Mk.3 is not capable of BR 8.7. I propose to lower the BR of this vehicle.
Top speed Change: 7-9km/h to 15.6 in line with previous event mode.
(I bring these up at BR changes to justify their 1.0 placement)
Reasoning: Currently in AB both the Mark V/Beautpanzer IV have engine performance in line with the original event however unlike the event the top speed change is only 10% compared to over 50% in the event, it would improve the player experience in arcade as that is the mode unhistorical top speed is permitted.
Other small change suggestions:
-Make the left cannon a secondary cannon so you can look through both gunner sights after selecting it as currently it is impossible to use the left main gun’s sight.
-Return the A7V/Beautpanzer their 57mm round that was swapped for event balance.
-Beutpanzer IV and Mark V crew amount from 7-8 to 9-11: Many tanks in WT use their maximum reported crew numbers however currently both the IV/V operate with minimum crew for operation in WW1. Particularly the Beatupanzer IV needs Gearsmen at the back to be able to switch gears.
Crew numbers in the first world war was not uniform. Tank Mark IV F41 “Fray Bentos” for example was one of the most famous using nine crew as the Mark IV required two gearsmen. Beautpanzer IV “Heinz” used a crew of 12 while Beautpanzer IV “Chaperon” used a crew of 10.
These changes would help bring these vehicles in line with the other WW1 vehicles.
It is in every aspect a light tank: Light armor (16-25mm), light crew (4), low survivability duo to small size, light armarment, the 3,7 cm gun of quite low velocity of 675m/s and relatively low penetration, 52mm top.
However it doesnt have the main advantage of light tanks: Speed, its quite slow with 33 km/h.
While many other guns of the size have either same OR FASTER reload, they also have more power, but this gun neither has speed or power:
37mm M3/M5/M6 guns 2.9 Sec
45mm 20-K 2.9 sec (on T-80 even 2.5 sec)
4 cm QF 2 pdr 2.8 sec
4,7 cm QF 3 pdr 3.0 sec
4,7 cm Type 1 3.3 sec
4 cm MAVAG 41.M 40/51 2.8 sec
4,7 cm 47/32 2.9-3.0 sec
4,7 cm 47/40 3.3 sec
4,7 cm SA 35 L/32 3.0 Sec (with Dedicated loader, without 4.0 sec (1 man turret))
4,7 cm SA 37 3.0 sec
This shows how little you understand of statistics.
You are completely leaving out the massive human influence aspect…
Most folks that actually have the TT abrams and know how to use it do extremely well with them.
The issue is too many people use them wrong.
Not the tanks issue.
What?
The ariete uses DM53 out of an L/44 caliber cannon
The M829A2 has higher penetration values out of an L/44 caliber cannon.
The abrams is a better tank than the ariete.
You are trolling or seriously do not understand the game to say otherwise.
shockingly , not, this is why majority of the playerbase believe balancing off of.player stats is the wrong way to balance.